Davaar Cave Painting vandalised !!!

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Postby Surfbored » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:59 pm

George McMillans postcards are always highly controversial imho :D

Only joking btw
I wasn't so easily patronised when I was your age ...
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Postby Sweltered » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:04 pm

Bruce wrote:
Sweltered wrote:I guess I didn't make myself clear...

You made yourself perfectly clear to me with your earlier response!

Just one thing though, how do you know how many of the locals have only seen the cave painting on a postcard?


If you were paying attention you would know.

I spent countless days on the beach with a perfect vantage point to see people crossing the Dhorlin, we saw very few, and met very few when we were over on the Island. More people have visited Sanda, but then again there's a pub on Sanda.

I doubt very much if George would allow a contreversial postcard in his shop!
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Postby Bruce » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:01 am

Sweltered, your response to me was so full of arrogance that I decided to ignore most of it... so I guess I wasn't paying attention!

However, your response now shows a total disregard for logic. While you may not have seen many people cross over to Davaar or even on the island itself doesn't mean that very few from the area have seen the painting for themselves! For one I doubt that you would have seen everyone that crossed and even if a few crossed each week (lets face it, there would be many days when possibly no one would cross) that would add up over the years. Then again, for all I know, you may have been so sad as to do a survey of everyone that did cross to the island :roll:
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Postby Sweltered » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:24 am

Bruce wrote:Sweltered, your response to me was so full of arrogance that I decided to ignore most of it... so I guess I wasn't paying attention!

However, your response now shows a total disregard for logic. While you may not have seen many people cross over to Davaar or even on the island itself doesn't mean that very few from the area have seen the painting for themselves! For one I doubt that you would have seen everyone that crossed and even if a few crossed each week (lets face it, there would be many days when possibly no one would cross) that would add up over the years. Then again, for all I know, you may have been so sad as to do a survey of everyone that did cross to the island :roll:


Yes, of course. But then again, I am right.

Did you know that 70% of people who live in Edinburgh have visited the castle only once, and 40 % have never visited it at all.
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Postby Bruce » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:04 am

Sweltered wrote:Did you know that 70% of people who live in Edinburgh have visited the castle only once, and 40 % have never visited it at all.

When you see the price thats charged for admission you can understand why!
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Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:26 am

i'm already sick of this

who cares?

if all these people think it's so SICK, why aren't they in the church every sunday?
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Postby 4th gen Suthen' » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:58 am

This thread has veered off in the wrong direction!
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Postby Sweltered » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:33 pm

A Horse called Juan Face wrote:i'm already sick of this

who cares?

if all these people think it's so SICK, why aren't they in the church every sunday?


My point exactly. Is this what thry call horse sense?
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Postby petewick » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:46 pm

Sweltered wrote:
A Horse called Juan Face wrote:i'm already sick of this

who cares?

if all these people think it's so SICK, why aren't they in the church every sunday?


My point exactly. Is this what thry call horse sense?



For me it's nothing to do with religion or church going, it's the fact that one of the greatest features in Kintyre has been defaced and I care about that.
What if the perpetrator of this started spraying over, let's say for example, the gravestones of our relatives in Kilkerran cemetery?
Would YOU care then.

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Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:49 pm

it'll be restored again
just so it looks even less like the original painting
i wouldnt be surprised if jesus head is facing the other way this time
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Postby ionnsaigh » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:56 pm

Bruce wrote:If I didn't know any better I would now be thinking that ionnsaigh is either the person that defaced the painting in the cave... or totally agrees with its defacement! To be honest, I don't think I do know any better...


No yer wrang -how can you deface the defaced- If some people still believe in superstition and dreams- that tell them what to do- then that's fine by me.
Perhaps the over the top reaction, shows the deep rooted effects of Christian indoctrination in Scotland.
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Postby Bruce » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:31 pm

ionnsaigh wrote:Perhaps the over the top reaction, shows the deep rooted effects of Christian indoctrination in Scotland.

Like petewick, I don't think what has happened and the reaction towards it has anything to do with religion - but I also doubt that will make a difference to you or anyone else that feels the same as you appear to!

Beyond that, I also don't think there is much more to be gained from any further discussion on what has happened... and that we wait until the painting has been restored, which of course will probably start off a new discussion on the good, bad and indifferent viewpoints of what will likely be seen as something different yet again!
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Postby Beachcomber » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:34 pm

Presumably the people saying "So what?" would be equally as unconcerned if someone were to break-in and spray-paint the cave art at Lascaux.
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Postby Sweltered » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:04 pm

petewick wrote:
Sweltered wrote:
A Horse called Juan Face wrote:i'm already sick of this

who cares?

if all these people think it's so SICK, why aren't they in the church every sunday?


My point exactly. Is this what thry call horse sense?




What if the perpetrator of this started spraying over, let's say for example, the gravestones of our relatives in Kilkerran cemetery?
Would YOU care then.

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Hopefully the interrred in kilkerran would have had a visit in the last 20 years.

I remember there was a suggestion that the millenium money should be spent on highlighting the cave painting, building a wee jetty tart up the cave etc. Where was the support then, from everyone who is so concerned now? That money would have preserved this great "asset"

What was that money spent on anyway?
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Postby Snoddy » Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:46 pm

Sweltered wrote:
Bruce wrote:Sweltered, your response to me was so full of arrogance that I decided to ignore most of it... so I guess I wasn't paying attention!

However, your response now shows a total disregard for logic. While you may not have seen many people cross over to Davaar or even on the island itself doesn't mean that very few from the area have seen the painting for themselves! For one I doubt that you would have seen everyone that crossed and even if a few crossed each week (lets face it, there would be many days when possibly no one would cross) that would add up over the years. Then again, for all I know, you may have been so sad as to do a survey of everyone that did cross to the island :roll:


Yes, of course. But then again, I am right.

Did you know that 70% of people who live in Edinburgh have visited the castle only once, and 40 % have never visited it at all.


What is it they say about bullshit baffling brains? If 70% of the people of Edinburgh have visited the castle at least once, then how could more than 30% have never visited at all?

You certainly had them foxed this time Mr Sweltered. Is this your Primary Schooling showing you up again, or the mischievious crofter coming out in you?

Answer please, in no more than 2 paragraphs.
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