Davaar Cave Painting vandalised !!!

[Bruce]

if I where to buy some paint in the toon, and paint an image of Christ on the cross - say over Columbia's footprints- would this act be seen as vandalism?

Yes... same as it would have been if the painting inside the cave had been something else and someone painted Jesus on the cross over that!

While it may be true that the original painting in the Davaar cave was an act of vandalism in itself, the fact remains that it is an accepted part of the Campbeltown/Kintyre (even Argyll and Scottish) heritage and the people of the toon (and elsewhere that are aware of it) are rightly upset by what has happened - as they would be if the cross or footprints were damaged!

Having said that, the cross in Campbeltown was of course vandalised during the Reformation... but then at least it survived intact unlike many other crosses and religious symbols across the land!

[petewick]

if I where to buy some paint in the toon, and paint an image of Christ on the cross - say over Columbia's footprints- would this act be seen as vandalism?

Yes... same as it would have been if the painting inside the cave had been something else and someone painted Jesus on the cross over that!

While it may be true that the original painting in the Davaar cave was an act of vandalism in itself, the fact remains that it is an accepted part of the Campbeltown/Kintyre (even Argyll and Scottish) heritage and the people of the toon (and elsewhere that are aware of it) are rightly upset by what has happened - as they would be if the cross or footprints were damaged!

Having said that, the cross in Campbeltown was of course vandalised during the Reformation... but then at least it survived intact unlike many other crosses and religious symbols across the land!

Let's get this into perspective here

VANDALISE: DEFINITION- TO WILFULLY DESTROY THE PROPERTY OF OTHERS etc

The cave painting has not been destroyed, it has been DEFACED.

[Bruce]

The cave painting has not been destroyed, it has been DEFACED.

Try vandalism as the intentional and malicious destruction of or damage to the property of another.

Maybe it has only been defaced, but in the eyes of most people that is vandalism... and may even have been so under the etc of your post Pete! However, it doesn't matter what words you use for this act (some may even see it as art in itself) the majority of people that are aware of it seem to care about what has happened!

[ionnsaigh]

The cave in itself was defaced by the original painting - full stop.

[Iona]

The cave in itself was defaced by the original painting - full stop.

Do you honestly think it was defaced initially? To a certain degree, yes, I can agree but do you disapprove of the Cave painting in terms of an historical interest?

[Surfbored]

Just in case nobody followed the links or read the story behind them

This may be something, or nothing at all.

I was interested to see if there was ANY link between Jesus and Che Guevara, so did some Googling.

I was quite surprised .............

http://www.rejesus.co.uk/expressions/fa ... y/che.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4244036.stm

http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/arc ... ertis.html


The campaign by the Church Action Network aims to dispel notions of Jesus as a "wimp in a white nightie".


If there was anything to this, what would it mean ...

Some kind of Christan Fundamentalism?

It might be nothing, but there is a definite link !!!!

[ionnsaigh]

Do you honestly think it was defaced initially? To a certain degree, yes, I can agree but do you disapprove of the Cave painting in terms of an historical interest?

Aye of course it was defaced.
No I don't, if anything the latest defacing contributes to the historical interest.

[Ninja Mania]

Im not getting into the debate of whether or not this is vandalism, but it has upset a lot of people, and the proof is in the postings.
This has been the fastest growing topic ever, on this site, so that in itself must say something, (but what ?).

[general jack o'niell]

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[general jack o'niell]

[Ship called Dignity]

Do you honestly think it was defaced initially? To a certain degree, yes, I can agree but do you disapprove of the Cave painting in terms of an historical interest?

Aye of course it was defaced.
No I don't, if anything the latest defacing contributes to the historical interest.

Do you mean once it is restored the fact it happened will add to the historical interest? Or something else?

[Machrihanish]

Well said General !!
...cave painting vandalised the cave...all I can say to that is 'ma erse' Can't believe that kind of comment.
The numptie/s who did the painting is need a good kick in the rear and I am sure that the kind of person who does this kind of thing doesnt even know who he is ??

[Bruce]

If I didn't know any better I would now be thinking that ionnsaigh is either the person that defaced the painting in the cave... or totally agrees with its defacement! To be honest, I don't think I do know any better...

[Malky]

I think the comment about the original painting being vandalism is missing the point.

Point is, the Che Guevarra image has been added over the top of the Crucifixion painting, and has obliterated someone else's work. Why didn't the person responsible paint the Guevarra image on another wall?

Malky

[Duke o' Ralston]

Can't help wondering how many people will now visit the island to view the latest artwork!! Quite fancy a wee deck masel even though I have never visited the unaltered painting.

Do you honestly think it was defaced initially? To a certain degree, yes, I can agree but do you disapprove of the Cave painting in terms of an historical interest?

Aye of course it was defaced.
No I don't, if anything the latest defacing contributes to the historical interest.

Do you mean once it is restored the fact it happened will add to the historical interest? Or something else?[/quote