blueboyno1 wrote:Yer Talkin tae yersel again Ionnsaigh ,does that not tell you something.
ionnsaigh wrote:Scab.
ionnsaigh wrote: I thought his Nae Bevvy Speech was patronising to say the least, a union officials function is to represent and serve the wishes of the workers, not to replace one set of dictators with another.
ionnsaigh wrote: Communist trouble maker
Govangirl wrote:Reid and his fellow union leaders refused to accept that five Clyde shipyards and 6,000 workers could be liquidised by Edward Heath's Tory government. For 14 months, they occupied the yards, working hard, managing the yards and filling the order books.
Govangirl wrote:Ionns whines about the use of the word ‘bevvying’ a word no true Glaswegian would find offensive: Reid used it as part of the riches of the city’s vernacular, the language of his people, actually. He made working people proud of themselves and he helped give them an identity and a voice. Ionns refuses to understand this. Perhaps it is because it is such a long time he was actually belonged to the working class?
Govangirl wrote:And what a cheek of Ionns to mention Arthur Scargill who for many reasons was never in the same league as Reid – for a start, he would never have confronted the Tories without a mandate from his union. Scargill divided and alienated whole parts of his union, something Reid never did. And I totally believe that Thatcher would not have defeated the miners if they had Jimmy Reid as their leader.
Govangirl wrote:is the most ridiculous and stupid thing he has ever said on here. Only a brain addled with weed could come up with that one.
Govangirl wrote:And then his change to the SNP – well, he was not the only one that was betrayed by NuLabour. He believed in a vigorous and honest, political philosophy under the name of Socialism and looked elsewhere when he wasn’t getting it. Again, compromise is not always easy but it’s not a crime. And he may well have moved from one political party to another but never did his basic beliefs change.
Govangirl wrote:We allowed Blair and his ilk to destroy Labour and now have the same problems as the shipyard workers had in the 70s – except there are no Jimmy Reids left!!!! Who today could develop a plan that would defeat the upcoming cruel cuts of the Tories and the spread of corporate greed?
Govangirl wrote:I am no 'Govan Romantic' in the form that Ionns means but:ionnsaigh wrote: I thought his Nae Bevvy Speech was patronising to say the least, a union officials function is to represent and serve the wishes of the workers, not to replace one set of dictators with another.
is the most ridiculous and stupid thing he has ever said on here. Only a brain addled with weed could come up with that one.
Andionnsaigh wrote: Communist trouble maker
is exactly what I was thinking reading that tripe!
I mourn Jimmy Reid's passing with every shred of my being.
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