Shorter sentences for murder

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Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:25 pm

Anyone seen the film "Hostel"?

If you take the film's, premise there's a ready-made solution here. Wealthy businessmen pay up to $50,000 to torture and kill people (who've been kidnapped in the film) at the archetypal disused power station.

So there you go, instead of kidnapping innocent backpackers, we could 'donate' certain individuals to the establishment. So double whammy - not only would it save the money to keep them in prison for 35 years, but we'd raise some money for the victims family as well.

To be honest, for Michael Mullen, the bids would probably start at well over £1m! :twisted:
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Postby Beachcomber » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:17 pm

bill wrote:ANOTHER SCUMBAG WHO SHOULD BE COUNTING THE DAYS TO HIS EXECUTION

The counting shouldn't take more days than the fingers on one hand, in his case. Evil b@stard.

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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:21 am

I believe I have told this story before on the forum, but I can't find the thread. This is the guy who swung my daughter on the swing in the park when she was 5 1/2 in 1992. He was the boyfriend of her friend's sister. The little friend and her sister lived across the street. Apparently out of earshot of her friend's sister, he asked my daughter a few times while swinging her if she wanted to go to the store with him. She said no. God knows what would have happened to her. He had killed the woman a couple of days before the day in the park and was arrested a couple of days later.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chr ... 58132.html

He was given a temporary reprieve last week an hour before he was to be executed.
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Postby Sweltered » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:01 am

None of the excuses can cover the fact that he killed her on the second attempt
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Postby general jack o'niell » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:09 pm

give me the job, i'll gladly put the rope round their necks and pull the lever
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Postby Tosh » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:12 pm

bill wrote:Why would I want to be doing that? More important to see justice being done.


"LET THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME"


So it's actually revenge you are after not justice!

An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind.
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Postby bill » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:03 pm

Another two who should be counting down the time to their meeting with the executioner

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article ... 67,00.html

Also the social services dept. involved should be feeling a sense of guilt at their lack of protection towards an innocent child.
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Postby ionnsaigh » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:36 am

general jack o'niell wrote:give me the job, i'll gladly put the rope round their necks and pull the lever


Hi general,
Hypothetically speaking, putting that thirst for revenge aside.
If your Daughter murdered your Son, would you as Father - gladly put the rope round her neck and pull the lever.
Some of us belief that murder is morally wrong full stop. The death penalty is an act that ends life- same as murder.
So you would use murder, to murder the murderer. :(
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Postby ionnsaigh » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:50 am

bill wrote:Another two who should be counting down the time to their meeting with the executioner

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article ... 67,00.html

Also the social services dept. involved should be feeling a sense of guilt at their lack of protection towards an innocent child.


bill,
The first part of your post reveals -you favour premature death - carried out by the state, for the act of murder.
Were do you draw the line, most murders happen in unpremeditated circumstances.
I totally and wholeheartedly agree with your opinion regarding Social Services, they are an absolute disgrace and should be held accountable. The head of Social Services should be dismissed immediately without pension right.
Senior Social work managers should face a similar fate. A public enquiry should be demanded.
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Postby Friend of Dorothy » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:59 am

Tosh wrote:
bill wrote:Why would I want to be doing that? More important to see justice being done.


"LET THE PUNISHMENT FIT THE CRIME"


So it's actually revenge you are after not justice!

An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind.

I tend to agree with Tosh, but also with Bill and ionnsaigh. There is something very wrong with our social support network and it is now time for a huge rethink. :cry:
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:41 pm

It is not an eye for an eye.. A little 4 year old girl was brutally murdered by her mother and her mother's boyfriend. Can you imagine the suffering that little child had to endure? She had over 100 injuries in different phases of healing on her body.. how is there any comparison of a tiny innocent victim to a vile parent who would do this to her own child? It isn't equal.

The little girl deserves our compassion. The mother gets nothing from me. I am against the death penalty for the most part, but to be honest, I don't care what they do to a person like this.
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Postby Tosh » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:19 pm

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:It is not an eye for an eye.. A little 4 year old girl was brutally murdered by her mother and her mother's boyfriend. .


Murder is always brutal, it's the nature of the crime.
Execution is also brutal, state sponsored execution even more so.
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:19 pm

I used to agree with you Tosh.. I'm not so sure any more.

Tosh, what punishment would be justice in your eyes? What is a little defenseless girl who wasn't only murdered, but brutalized in the weeks beforehand.. what is she worth? How is justice served? Rehabilitation?

I don't know the answer to these things.. just don't think justice is served whatever is done.. the little girl is dead, and she is innocent, and should be running in the playground. Her mother had a choice.
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:34 am

Editing... Asked a question here, but think I will wait until another time.
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Re: Shorter sentences for murder

Postby bill » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:35 pm

Time this list was updated.

Bilal Abdulla...though he never managed to kill anyone,his intention was to kill hundreds in London and Glasgow.

Sean Mercer....scum,he has shown no remorse what so ever.

3 months then the hangmans noose,and good riddance.
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