A83 road closure

[ionnsaigh]

With all due respect Mary G. The subject matter -road closer. remains the central point. You only serve to muddy the water - by your insistence on reply. Get back to the real world - of putting food in yer belly - feelings of isolation - are sweeping blanket statements - meaning little - when juxtaposed against harsh economic conditions - of a laid off worker with a family to keep.

[ionnsaigh]

A sniff a snob - a snob a sniff
get the meaning -catch the drift
only yer attitude - causes riff
the riff - the raff - riffraff
All hail the mighty Queen
black an White - named Mary.

[Mary G]

Just heard on the radio that the road is open.

From the Traffic Scotland website:

"The road was scheduled to be closed on both Wednesday 14 and Thursday 15 November 2007, while further work was carried out at the site of the landslip, this work is now complete."

[Pans Lass]

Oh good going to Glasgow tomorrow on the bus......its a long enough journey as it is. On that note is anyone going to Glasgow tomorrow lunch time ...happy to carpool .

[Kintyre Forum News]

Interesting to read this, hear is hoping we don't have a repeat of the landslide in 2007. Below are a couple if images posted in this thread earlier.

Lasers to scan for landslides

LASERS are to be used at a trunk road landslip black spot to help predict future potential landslides.
Engineers from Transport Scotland have drafted in a scanner at the Rest and Be Thankful on the A83 near Arrochar in Argyll.

The equipment will monitor the hillside to improve understanding of ground movement patterns.

The Glasgow to Campbeltown route was closed for two weeks in 2007 after being engulfed by 400 tonnes of soil and rock.

[DOUBLE A]

Rest closed both ways according to BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/gla ... 244247.stm

[Mr.Everready]

Here we go again.

[Ross]

Interesting to read this, hear is hoping we don't have a repeat of the landslide in 2007. Below are a couple if images posted in this thread earlier.

Lasers to scan for landslides

LASERS are to be used at a trunk road landslip black spot to help predict future potential landslides.
Engineers from Transport Scotland have drafted in a scanner at the Rest and Be Thankful on the A83 near Arrochar in Argyll.

The equipment will monitor the hillside to improve understanding of ground movement patterns.

The Glasgow to Campbeltown route was closed for two weeks in 2007 after being engulfed by 400 tonnes of soil and rock.

What a JINX.. They even used the photo from 2007 in the news article on the BBC.

[bill]

Here we go again.

Just my luck,it will be a detour for me tomorrow AGAIN.

[Beachcomber]

So in the two years since the last time this road was blocked the council have done nothing to come up with an alternative (shorter) diversion?

Presumably there aren't enough voters in west Argyll to make the capital investment worthwhile.

[Ship called Dignity]

What a bummer. We're heading to the game tomorrow and this will add 45 minutes to our journey plus it is already an earlier kick off. 7.30pm now Looks like we won't get long to enjoy the delights of Glasgow.

So in the two years since the last time this road was blocked the council have done nothing to come up with an alternative (shorter) diversion?

Presumably there aren't enough voters in west Argyll to make the capital investment worthwhile.

I would imagine coming up with any shorter alternative version given our geography would be quite hard. I think the road is the Scottish Executive's responsiblity but mayne someone could put that right? However, the Council should be certainly putting more pressure on the SE about it.

[Kintyre Forum News]

A landslide has closed the A83 at the Rest And Be Thankful.

The road is closed between the A82 at Tarbet and the A815 at Cairndow and will remain closed until further notice.

Note: At Tarbet, access will be maintained for traffic to Arrochar and areas East of the Rest and be Thankful.

Diversion route for Westbound A83 traffic from Tarbet:

Westbound A83 traffic should follow the A82(N) to Crianlarich and Tyndrum, thereafter joining the A85 to Dalmally and then via A819 to Inverary for Cairndow and all areas West of the Rest and be Thankful.

Diversion route for Eastbound A83 traffic from Inverary:

Eastbound A83 traffic should follow the A819 from Inverary to Dalmally, thereafter joining the A85 to Tyndrum. At Tyndrum, traffic should join the A82(S) for Crianlarich and Tarbet.

Notes:

Access from Cairndow to Dunoon via the A819 remains unaffected.

Access from Inverary to Lochgoilhead via the A83 remains unaffected.


*PRESS RELEASE

Issued on behalf of Transport Scotland by Scotland TranServ following the landslide of Tuesday 8th September 2009 at the A83 Rest and be Thankful. Argyll.

Following a number of serious landslide events during 2004, Transport Scotland commissioned studies on debris flows and management.

The Scottish Road Network Landslides Study Implementation report, published earlier this year, included a detailed review of the network to identify locations of greatest hazard, to rank those hazards and identify appropriate management and mitigation measures. Management actions, including landslide patrols, are currently being implemented throughout the network.

Geotechnical experts are currently on-site at the Rest and be Thankful locus to assess the situation.

Equipment to remove the debris is being mobilised on both sides of the landslide and work will commence as soon as the site is assessed as safe to work.

Safety at the locus is the primary concern and the area in the vicinity of the landslide will have to be fully assessed by before any decision can be taken regarding the re-opening of the road.

Transport Scotland and its Operating Company, Scotland TranServ, are fully aware of the inconvenience and disruption caused by the closure of the A83 at the Rest and Be Thankful.

The general public will be kept fully informed of progress and the road will be re-opened soon as possible when safe to do so.

For general enquiries during office hours please contact Scotland Transerv Customer Care Line on 017384 55 383.

[SBpete]

If you time it right I suggest taking the ferries. You can do the whole journey in well under 3 hrs, and have a couple of sleeps.

Approx. journey times

cambeltown - tarbert (37 miles) - 45 minutes
tarbert - portavadie (book of car driver tickets works out a £7 per journey) - 30 minutes
Portavadie - Dunoon (30 miles) - 45 minutes
Dunoon - Gourock (western ferries, buy a car/driver return in Sandbank about £13 rtn) - 25 minutes
Gourock - Glasgow (30 miles) 30 minutes

Hope this helps.

cheers

Pete

[kintyre forum news 4]

Latest report at 3PM

It is anticipated that 800 tonnes of material landed on the A83. Scotland TranServ report that they anticipate that the road will be cleared of this material by late this afternoon.

At present, there is a team of geotechnical engineers inspecting the hillside, above and below the road in order to assess the stability of the area. This is a difficult process because it is important that the safety of road users is not compromised by opening the road too soon.

On this basis it is extremely unlikely that a decision on this matter will be made today and therefore the road will remain closed today.

Please note that no other landslides have taken place at this location and there has been no announcement made of when the road may open.

Should further information become available then a further Postmaster Notice will be issued.

Stewart Turner

Head of Roads & Amenity Services

[Beachcomber]

I would imagine coming up with any shorter alternative version given our geography would be quite hard.

In two years they could have purchased the forestry road on the other side of the valley and upgraded it sufficiently that it could be used by traffic.

I don't dispute it would have cost a lot of money but it would have done away with this situation.