The Kintyre Forum

Campbeltown marina...
do you think they will ever build it?

No.

howlsatthemoon wrote:No.

Why?

There's no money left, they spend a fair chunk of it on the all weather pitch.

A Final Report on the provision of a new Berthing Facility was recently produced showing the various options. There is a lot of interesting information if you want to read it at the following link.

http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/sites/def ... _final.pdf

Would be interesting to know how much has been spent on consultants on this as at the end of this report it doesn't recommend any of the options apart from recommending another report which no doubt means more consultant fees!

Mr.Everready wrote:There's no money left

There is £680,000 from the CHORD project available.

Yes an interesting read.
They should keep it simple and add some more pontoons and the floating breakwater onto the existing one
Yachts can bring in a lot of money to the local economy

Kintyre Forum News wrote:
There is £680,000 from the CHORD project available.

Out of how much ?

Mr.Everready wrote:

Kintyre Forum News wrote:
There is £680,000 from the CHORD project available.

Out of how much ?

Not much out of the £6.5 million allocated to Campbeltown as part of the CHORD Project. When the CHORD project was announced in Campbeltown the marina was the one project that stood out to me. The thought of an improved marina was exciting news with potentially huge economic benefits to the town.

I posted some detail of the breakdown of the CHORD monies on the Park Square thread a wee while back viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12351#p113664 I can't believe more of the whole thing hasn't been a hot topic for discussion. £5 million pound is being spent on the Kinloch Road Regeneration and new road. Surely someone has to be asking where this money is being spent when we could be getting a new marina. As far as I can see only Cllr Donald Kelly has went public and questioned the spending - wee bit in the Courier a couple of weeks.

The CHORD project for Campbeltown received a capital allocation of £6.5m in November 2008. £1.16 million of that was allocated to the development of Campbeltown marina (which was then reduced to £680,000 following money be moved to support the AWP). The regeneration programme of the town centre, Campbeltown THI, got £300,000 with just under £5million pound being allocated to the Kinloch Road Regeneration. Of that £1,000,000 went to Campbeltown Infrastructure Improvements to build a new road through Park Square leaving £3,995,000 for the Kinloch Road Regeneration. As mentioned above of that £800,000 was allocated to the housing development with little (or no) detail of where the remaining £3,000,000 is being spent (one assumes the removal of the Council yard etc but there is no break down).

so we don;t know how much was ACTUALLY spent on the all weather pitch? but we know that almost 400k was taken away from the Marina?
(or did i miss the figure?)

i think spending the money on the Marina would have been better for the local economy and surrounding area and actually attract visitors rather than the AWP- sure we might have visitors come down to play on it, but they won;t stay for long or spend any time/money in the area like folks using the Marina would.

Nomad wrote:so we don;t know how much was ACTUALLY spent on the all weather pitch? but we know that almost 400k was taken away from the Marina? (or did i miss the figure?)

My point wasn't actually about the money taken from the CHORD project for the AWP - it was about the overall spend of the £6.5 million.

Here's what I know. £1.16 million of the £6.5 million was allocated to the development of a new marina. Following a technical fesibility study that was completed in December 2010 the Council announced (Feb/March 2011) the marina wasn't feasible. (perhaps not so much of an announcement but decided they weren't going to go ahead with it). The report can be found at

http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/sites/def ... eportw.pdf

In the meantime the promise of capital funding (out of the Council's budget and not CHORD) for the provision of the All Weather Project was not part of the Capital Programme announcement made in Feb 2011. The Council then announced that as the marina wasn't feasible the AWP could be funded under the CHORD project by taking £480,000 to ensure it secured the £316,000 of funding made to SportScotland - a full business case and feasibility study on the provision of the AWP showed it was feasible.

So basically the Council held our three local councillors over a barrel - take the funding from the CHORD project and you will get the AWP. If you don't you won't get a marina or an AWP. Fortunately (and with very little time) our Councillors agreed to take the money from the Marina project on the basis that further investigations are carried out for the provision of a scaled down marina - or in essence one that was feasible. From a personal perspective, knowing the campaign the Sports Council and the wider community fought to get the All Weather Pitch, it all left a rather sour taste in the mouth of those who had campaigned for the AWP. We were basically promised it would get funding but certainly didn't know it would come from another local project. And as many have said, the Council should have never put two much need projects up against each other. Basically the Council raided their CHORD funds to fulfill the empty promise of the provision of the AWP as part of the capital programme.

The bigger question that should be getting asked however is why do we have this scenario now of people putting the marina vs the AWP when money could easily have been found elsewhere in the CHORD project? As mentioned just under £5 million is being spent on new housing, a new road and some fancy railings, bins and paving. £800,000 alone was awarded to ACHA to enhance the finishings of the housings (flats) they are building at a cost of £5.2 million pounds.

Nomad wrote:i think spending the money on the Marina would have been better for the local economy and surrounding area and actually attract visitors rather than the AWP- sure we might have visitors come down to play on it, but they won;t stay for long or spend any time/money in the area like folks using the Marina would.

Yes, good points but it shouldn't be the marina vs the AWP. Why don't we ask the same questions of everything else that is being done? I know I would rather we get both the AWP and a marina as opposed to fancy finishings and ridiculous money being thrown at housing (32 flats). The CHORD project should also be about social development and about giving something to us poor plebs who stay here. That's why we should be getting a new Marina and the AWP. Its interesting even at the open day it is impossible to get any figures on the CHORD spend on the Kinloch Road Regeneration.

By the way, I'm just trying to explain what I know of the situation and this isn't a rant! Honest!!

of course you're right. it ACTUALLY shouldn;t be "marina v's AWP" based on what you said. we need both (plus a few other things!....ferry?). and if what you said is correct then the people involved (charged with making decisions?) made the best of a bad situation......

i don;t know enough about the huge amounts of money being spent on the 32 flats (as you mentioned) so i can;t comment on that...

however, it seems to me tho that we've missed out (as a toon) on the whole thing.

seems to me that they have and are friting away the money on rubbish and unnecessary things
and so campbeltown will miss out
look at tarbet a gorgeous place because of its marina
Campbeltown should of had a decent one one years ago
im sure there could of been enough money for the awp and a marina...if managed right!

Final report on the marina at

http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/content/c ... ugust-2011

Can someone read it and share your findings?

Niander wrote:seems to me that they have and are friting away the money on rubbish and unnecessary things
and so campbeltown will miss out
look at tarbet a gorgeous place because of its marina
Campbeltown should of had a decent one one years ago
im sure there could of been enough money for the awp and a marina...if managed right!

I think a Marina would have been a better choice for the town. As you say Tarbert front looks excellent since this was added. I am sure tourists who head for the coastal towns will appreciate and remember how the place looks because of it.

Isa wrote:I think a Marina would have been a better choice for the town.

Than what?