The Kintyre Forum

An Area Committee meeting last Wednesday passed the following:

It is recommended that all staff move from Dell Road to the Burnett building following the removal of the Library from that building.

It is recommended that works are carried out to the ground floor of the Town Hall which will enable up to 16 staff to be housed there.

It is recommended that a design study be prepared to provide staff accommodation in the Christian Institute.

The Burnett building will be adapted to house the 19 staff currently working in Dell Road, on the ground and first floors. The Museum would be moved to the current Library room and the former Museum room adapted to provide a Marriage Room and meeting room for Area Committee etc. Dell Road building would be sold.

There has been no public consultation on this and CCC has agreed to hold a public meeting to discuss this matter in the Council Chamber of the Town Hall next Monday, 6 February at 7.30 pm. All welcome.

Nancie wrote:The Burnett building will be adapted to house the 19 staff currently working in Dell Road

What does this entail Nancie? Does this mean the building will be split up into offices?

Malky

Just to point out the old thread on this incase there are any valid points on there.

http://www.awwhosting.co.uk/campbeltown ... php?t=1258

I must admit - the Marriage Room being situated in the Burnett Building is a cracking idea and something that will probably prove popular. I'm sure if this was marketed correctly many people would come to Campbeltown to get married - the building itself is impressive and the gounds (Lindas Garden) and the exterior of the building all make for some good wdding photos.

However, like Gus, I thought one of the ideas with the library moving was for the Museum to expand - not too sure about people trouncing through auld relics to get married!

Malky wrote:

Nancie wrote:The Burnett building will be adapted to house the 19 staff currently working in Dell Road

What does this entail Nancie? Does this mean the building will be split up into offices?

Malky

You know as much as I do Malky. Hopefully we will have a councillor at the meeting to enlighten us. I do know there are some groups concerned about the details. At the last meeting of CCC we were told this could happen and we asked that there should be full public consultation. It looks as if the decision has been made already.

Nancie

Can anyone confirm who actually owns the building that currently houses the library and museum? Is it the council, per se, or is it held under common good?

Cheers
Gary

Nancie wrote:An Area Committee meeting last Wednesday passed the following:

It is recommended that all staff move from Dell Road to the Burnett building following the removal of the Library from that building.

It is recommended that works are carried out to the ground floor of the Town Hall which will enable up to 16 staff to be housed there.

It is recommended that a design study be prepared to provide staff accommodation in the Christian Institute.

The Burnett building will be adapted to house the 19 staff currently working in Dell Road, on the ground and first floors. The Museum would be moved to the current Library room and the former Museum room adapted to provide a Marriage Room and meeting room for Area Committee etc. Dell Road building would be sold.

There has been no public consultation on this and CCC has agreed to hold a public meeting to discuss this matter in the Council Chamber of the Town Hall next Monday, 6 February at 7.30 pm. All welcome.

When are the Council going to stop wasting the publics money? How many times have council staff and offices changed in Campbeltown over the years?

While moving staff may secure some buildings the on-going cost to maintain, heat etc are not cost effective as offices. The town hall should be exactly that - the blooming TOWN HALL! What offices will be located there? How much money will be spent on the Christian Institure - a building that has seen a considerable amount of money already spent on it over the years...

Just get all the staff together and put them all in one big building! Build it as offices and put any cash generated from the sale of Dell Road, Witchburn Road, Bolgam Street, Christian Institure into the new building!

I hope any thoughts on this matter on here can be conveyed at the meeting - unfortunately I am in Tarbert next Monday.

Council should centralise the offices they currently have & re-locate to somewhere on the former RAF base, there are plenty of building out there & large enough to accomodate all the staff from all departments. Although some form of office will have to be retained for the public to walk in, i am sure this would prove cost effective & be better value for our council tax.

Guid thinkin Par/man, an thurs a big fence roon it tae, aye yur naw daft, am shoor a ken whit ye meen.
An whin thurs an exercise oan, ye cuid gee thim ermy boys sumthin tae practice shootin at, ist thit whoot yer meenin, or a ma bein forseechuz.

TAP

Do you mean gie the cooncil some exercise??

I too would be interested in just who owns this building which was as you say gifted to the towns people not to the ABC.Did they take rates from it? In which case one could say it was,nt theirs.
When the old Town Council was scrapped did something happen to transfer those type of things over to the new administration in law?Perhaps a "search" should be carried out by the legal guys..

I think its just too nice a building for offices ,ok for for getting married in thou.

Now I wonder just what kind of flats will be built at Kirkland and guess by who...probably got planning already...

Dunc

[quote="Nancie"] The Museum would be moved to the current Library room and the former Museum room adapted to provide a Marriage Room and meeting room for Area Committee etc.




I have to say that the above recommendation, in my opinion is nothing
but pure bahooly.
There is simply not enough floor or wall space in the library room to accomodate the many fine displays housed in our museum.
Additionally there is the security issue, remember the irreplacable coin collection, muskets and flintlocks that were stolen not so long ago.
This unfortunate act warranted the upgrading of the security of the museum at the time, but do you think the local authority will cough up to meet these needs again, I think not.
Also certain displays are heat and light sensitive and require to be kept in the appropriate conditions. Do you think that the custodians of our museum will pay for this to be implemented, I think not.
Sorry if this seems like a bit of a rant, but I passionately care about our museum.
I urge everyone to do their utmost to ensure that the museum is preserved for the people to whom it was gifted and not be ruined by those in power who in my opinion have not thought this matter through objectively.

petewick

Some interesting reading on the MINUTES of MEETING of MID ARGYLL KINTYRE & ISLAY AREA COMMITTEE on Wed, 25.01.06

Especially with regards the Library, Town Hall and the Christian Institute

http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/moderngov ... ocA.ps.pdf

Anyone concerned about this or wanting more details, come along to the open meeting at 7.30pm on Monday night in the committee room (next to the council chamber) in the town hall. Not the council chamber as previously stated as someone is using it.

I won't make it along Nancie but I would just like to say that I feel the Council should have at least made the public aware of their trail of thoughts.

More so, so should our Councillors. In the Courier Cllr McKinlay is quoted as saying 'We've got to get people put in there to stop them closing' By WE does he mean the Council or by WE does he mean the public? If the first then the Councillors should remember they are elected by the people and not employed by the Council! If he means the public then no-one consulted us!

First and foremost the long term secuirty of these buildings is a MUST. Having read the minutes etc (its amazing what is on this darn net thing!) and the Courier perhaps the Council has thought this completely through it would just be better if they made this public and allowed for other poinst of view.

I would like to know more about the proposals before I pass judgement but I still think they should have went down the road of putting the staff all in one office (do you think they were reading my mind!). Imagine a £5 million pound project in the town - the spin offs for local firms and the town would be excellent and would keep many in work for the length of the project. The money saved in the long term could go to maintaining our fine buildings too!

I will be in Tarbert attending to stuff so I hope others attend and report back!

Both the Libray/Museum (Burnet Building) and the Town Hall are, I think, category 'A' listed. The Council can therefore be forced legally to ensure they are properly maintained and not allowed to deteriorate. This means Councillor McKinlay is wrong when he implies that Council staff have to be given these buildings as offices or we will lose them. Personally, I don't think they would be suitable for office use without major modification which may be inconsistent with their listed status. Like Kintyre Lad, I feel the public should have been told about this and allowed to express their views at a much earlier stage. To have the proposal passed by the area committee before the public even got to hear about it is completely unacceptable. We've more or less been preesented with a 'fait accompli'.