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Drinking Alcohol Outside and the local bylaw
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:50 pmby hoots the scoop
At the last Community Council Meeting, the Community Council raised the point about the local bylaw where you are not allowed to drink alcohol outside.
What are peoples views on this? Should it be allowed or not?
Should more of an attempt be made to introduce bistro/pub culture whereby you can buy a drink and sit in the street peacefully and drink?
Posted:
Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:15 pmby Jock Strap
Allow it! Especially in the summer!
I thought one of the suggestions I read was the Council were to change Burnside Sqaure from a car park to an area where pubs etc could place seats etc and allow people to drink outside etc.
Drinking Alcohol Outside
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:56 pmby alan k
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:28 amby peaceseeker
I dont agree at all.
I, and my wife for that matter, find people walking the streets drinking cans of beer to be intimidating. That's a personal view.
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:39 amby Ship called Dignity
peaceseeker wrote:I dont agree at all.
I, and my wife for that matter, find people walking the streets drinking cans of beer to be intimidating. That's a personal view.
I agree with that too but I think the point is more to do with the fact that in Campbeltown there are no places to sit outside and enjoy a drink. In fact you are breaking the law if you and your wife decide to sit down the front and have a picnic and drinlk a glass of wine.
However, in the likes of Glasgow there are lplaces all over the city where people can sit out and enjoy a drink, albeit this seems to have flourished since the introduction of the smoking ban. In fact Campbeltonians can travel 6 miles to Machrihanish and enjoy a drink outside there but can't do it in their own town.
Daft bylaw if you ask me, is it the same in Oban?
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:08 amby petewick
the p wrote:peaceseeker wrote:I dont agree at all.
I, and my wife for that matter, find people walking the streets drinking cans of beer to be intimidating. That's a personal view.
I agree with that too but I think the point is more to do with the fact that in Campbeltown there are no places to sit outside and enjoy a drink. In fact you are breaking the law if you and your wife decide to sit down the front and have a picnic and drinlk a glass of wine.
However, in the likes of Glasgow there are lplaces all over the city where people can sit out and enjoy a drink, albeit this seems to have flourished since the introduction of the smoking ban. In fact Campbeltonians can travel 6 miles to Machrihanish and enjoy a drink outside there but can't do it in their own town.
Daft bylaw if you ask me, is it the same in Oban?
It is thep, and as you say the requirement for outside drinking to be allowed is more in demand since the smoking ban.
The only bar up here which seems to have cracked it is the Lorne Bar which has a yard at the side which they have put a canopy, tables and chairs along with lighting and gas burners for heating.
petewick
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:12 amby SmithD
I don't like seeing people standing about drinking in the street. But as you say in Glasgow outside sitting at a bar or restuarant is fine.
Its a pity the law isn't so licensed premises are allowed people sitting in a designated area. But it probably wouldn't take off in Campbeltown.
The square would probably be quite nice in the summer, but then where would we park!
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:57 amby EMDEE
It is like a lot of laws where the behaviour of the irresponsible spoils it for everyone. I think we know the types of drinker that the by-law is aimed at, but it is a blanket ban.
Instead of introducing a blanket ban, the police could be instructed to clamp down on neds and winos, although it could be very difficult to draw a line between what is acceptable and what is not, as it would come down to the individual police officer.
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:14 amby general jack o'niell
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:58 pmby Ship called Dignity
general jack o'niell wrote:this is only my opinion but i think anyone that complains about not being allowed to drink outside has already got a problem, i think the licensing hours should be cut to allow less drinking, not broadened to encourage more. if you need a drink that bad sit in your garden and drink. pubs should shut at 10pm, try getting rid of this scottish drink culture, bad enough without making it worse, i avoid anywhere where there are a lot of people drinking, their never as amusing as they seem to think they are, worse still is the whole hiding your drink thing which you witness on bus trips, who really needs to swill voddy at eight in the morning.
if you want to drink outside, join a winter league at the golf, you'll fit right in!!!
Excellent, so I now have a problem just because I would like to see the bistro/pub culture which is prevalent all over the world except in Campbeltown?
To be honest, and again only my opinion, but you really should wake up to 21st century - the fact that licensing hours are now broader causes less problems. The fact that pubs are open to 2am in the morning allow people to come out later, go home when the want etc and allows for easier dispersion of the public at the end of the evening rather than have hordes of people all leaving the public houses at the same time.
Just because you don't soclialise doesn't mean the rest of have a problem
Anyway, morning holiday over and time to go to work!
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:07 pmby The Hitman
I agree totally P, where is the problem of sitting outside a pub/restaurant enjoying a refreshment in Campbeltown?
Was the blanket ban put in place because once outside with an alcoholic drink EVERYONE turns into yobs and thugs and causes a riot? Don't think so, or is it just the mere fact that the police don't want to go around and ensure law and order prevails?
As for your comments general - wake up and smell the coffee! Think you may be living an 19canteen. Why is it acceptable to drink outside in Glasgow but not Campbeltown? Is this ban just to appease a few and condemn the many?
It would appear so.
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:37 pmby EMDEE
As far as I understand it is an Argll and Bute thing and covers the central areas of the major towns in the council area, i.e. Campbeltown, Dunoon, Rothesay, Oban, Helensburgh. Don't know if any other places are covered.
Hmm ...
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Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:53 pmby Annie
In most other countries, areas are designated for drinking, eating and outdoor entertainment. The only place that I have seen that you can actually "drink in the streets," is at Mardigras in New Orleans and St. Patrick's Day in Savannah, Georgia. Even then, certain portions are blocked off for use by the public.
So why can we not do that here, especially during the summer, because God knows the summers here are all too short at the best of times!
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Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:00 pmby daftdog
I agree that drinking outside Licensed Premises should be allowed within the town limits of Campbeltown. I'm just back from Cardiff and sitting outside eating a full cooked breakfast with a pint o Guinness at 9am was brilliant. Although i don’t think it would be the same in the toon, as the Pavements aren’t really built for it and lets face it, you would be the talk of the town by 9:05am if you did this there..
I know there is a big difference between the toon and Cardiff, but the principal is the same.
But drinking outside Licensed Premises within the designated area would be good for smokers and everyone else. NOT sitting down the putting green getting tanked up on cans o lager.
Yeah!
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:37 pmby Annie
I am glad I have someone to actually agree with this time on the forum. Usually I get myself in LOADS of trouble!
Ye know as my mother used tae tell me:
"Lassie, ye can git yesel' intae trouble in an empty room!"
By jove, I think she got it!!!!
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
