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THE FUTURE LOOK OF UK ROAD TAX

This is genuine.... IT IS A PROPER GOVERNMENT SITE.

The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. (For instance a non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month when the system was on a trial.)

On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are Parked and could invoke a penalty accordingly, they will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect and additional fine with your monthly bill. They will also know where YOU ARE at ALL TIMES when you are motoring.

If you own a motor vehicle or rely on one for any purpose at all you really need to read this and I hope sign the petition. The information can also be accessed via www.direct.gov.uk, on the site A-Z click the link for Number 10 then the link for petitions.

If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant hounding of the car driver, please give this e-mail earnest consideration. It will be easier to click on the link below where you sign the petition on No 10's new website at: -

http://petitions.pmgov.uk/traveltax/

I have confirmed for myself that this is genuine and signed up. This is a NEW initiative by the Government to seek the views of the populace at large. It may be the start of many such initiatives. The shock was to find that, because it has not been publicised enough, only 174,000 motorists have so far signed up, yet there are some 30,000,000 vehicles in our country. Also to find that the closing date imposed on this petition is very near - 20th February 2007. Adding your name is very easy to do. After you have completed and 'signed' the online petition, you will receive an email confirmation from Number 10 (team@petitions.pm.gov.uk) which you will then need to CLICK on, so as to validate your signing up.

We have nothing to lose by trying - if you don't want Tony & Gordon to have all our money because we drive a car or motorcycle, then please do sign up.

I see on tonight's news that the number of people who have signed the petition against road pricing on the No. 10 website has passed 1,000,000. Anyone out there that hasn't signed up yet - please log on and add your weight!

WC1 wrote:THE FUTURE LOOK OF UK ROAD TAX

This is genuine.... IT IS A PROPER GOVERNMENT SITE.

The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. (For instance a non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month when the system was on a trial.)

On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are Parked and could invoke a penalty accordingly, they will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit you can expect and additional fine with your monthly bill. They will also know where YOU ARE at ALL TIMES when you are motoring.

If you own a motor vehicle or rely on one for any purpose at all you really need to read this and I hope sign the petition. The information can also be accessed via www.direct.gov.uk, on the site A-Z click the link for Number 10 then the link for petitions.

If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant hounding of the car driver, please give this e-mail earnest consideration. It will be easier to click on the link below where you sign the petition on No 10's new website at: -

http://petitions.pmgov.uk/traveltax/

I have confirmed for myself that this is genuine and signed up. This is a NEW initiative by the Government to seek the views of the populace at large. It may be the start of many such initiatives. The shock was to find that, because it has not been publicised enough, only 174,000 motorists have so far signed up, yet there are some 30,000,000 vehicles in our country. Also to find that the closing date imposed on this petition is very near - 20th February 2007. Adding your name is very easy to do. After you have completed and 'signed' the online petition, you will receive an email confirmation from Number 10 (team@petitions.pm.gov.uk) which you will then need to CLICK on, so as to validate your signing up.

We have nothing to lose by trying - if you don't want Tony & Gordon to have all our money because we drive a car or motorcycle, then please do sign up.

The links above have errors: use these

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/ (dot was missing between pm.gov)
http://www.direct.gov.uk (was an extra comma after the uk)

My name's on it, although I don't know how much good it would do, even if everyone in the country signed it.

If the government want to push something through then that's what they'll do, regardless of what we want. Just look at ID cards.

If each vehicle is to be fitted with a tracking device what happens when that vehicle is scrapped? Do you get a refund on your tracker? What about if you take a vehicle off the road for any length of time (SORN)?

Will there be an annual fee for 'registering' your tracker or making changes to the name/address details associated with it? What will happen when you sell your vehicle? What happens if the new owner fails to register their ownership with DVLA or whoever will administer the system?

Does it apply to all road vehicles? Cars, lorries, tractors, quads, motorbikes, scooters, road-rollers, mobile cranes, fire engines, Police cars, armoured vehicles, invalid carriages, milk floats? What's the betting that government-owned vehicles will be exempt?

Typically, this is legislation targetted at the urban motorist yet being applied across the whole country. It's not as if Kintyre has a problem with congestion, even if it were to increase 25% overnight. Presumably the Scottish Executive has no power of veto over this.

Thanks Daftdog. I'm not very good at tipyng; fingers too big for the keys probably.

Another point that has just come to mind is that one of vehicles was manufactured prior to 1973 and is registered as an Historic Vehicle. This means I don't have to pay for it's tax disc. Will this vehicle be exempt from this scheme, zero-rated but will still need a tracker, or is this a sneaky way for the revenue to start taxing it again?

Doh!

E-mail lies spark road tax protest

http://www.dcthomson.co.uk/MAGS/POST/news1.htm

Think you will find you would need a tracker... Older vehicles are usually less fuel efficient, so exempting these would mean people with these vehicles would use them in preference to the newer but tracked vehicles, surely defeating the object of the exercise... This is obviously a money making scheme, but I have long thought a similar, but less revenue raising system would be fairer, doing away with road tax and slapping it on fuel means tax avoidance is very difficult, then the people who only drive to Tescos are not subsidising the Reps who do 2000 miles a week... Could take it further and maybe put basic insurance charges on fuel as well then the 1 in 10 drivers who are uninsured are at least paying something... Extra premiums for drunk drivers, the young drivers, speeders etc could be billed seperately to keep the insurance companies happy.

In agreement with you 100% Gizmo.

gizmo wrote:Could take it further and maybe put basic insurance charges on fuel as well then the 1 in 10 drivers who are uninsured are at least paying something...

This is perhaps one of the most sensible suggestions I've heard in a long time.

Doesn't it work this way in the USA?