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Posted:
Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:28 pm
by iceblue
I heard this morning that the Friday collection won't be carried out until possibly Tuesday now. Also, I heard that the streets won't be swept over the weekend either. Rubbish is already piling up around the Cross, despite all the litter bins. Not a good impression for visitors to the town
Possibly something to do with Single Status?

Posted:
Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:17 pm
by censored
iceblue wrote:Possibly something to do with Single Status?
If so then it's a great way to get the general public behind you.... NOT.

Posted:
Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:53 pm
by foxbar

Posted:
Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:07 pm
by mrn
iceblue wrote:I heard this morning that the Friday collection won't be carried out until possibly Tuesday now. Also, I heard that the streets won't be swept over the weekend either. Rubbish is already piling up around the Cross, despite all the litter bins. Not a good impression for visitors to the town
Possibly something to do with Single Status?
I also noticed the mess in town today - bins full and papers all over the street. Far from ideal way to impress visitors to Campbeltown.

Posted:
Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:34 pm
by Kintyre Forum News
This topic has been split to highlight the mess the town in as a result of no Council workers working this weekend.
Here is a photo from the cross tonight - god only know what it will be like by Tuesday.
Will leave a lasting impression with visitors I am sure but does go to highlight how badly these services are needed...
Not something we would like to post but just to show you..


Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:12 am
by SmithD
Its not a good impression of town, and neither is when the school lunch hour is over and the mess that is left on the new pavements that are going down in main street! The bin is only a hand stretch away.
I thought they were going to be tougher on littering!

Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:03 am
by jdcarra
Kintyre News wrote:Here is a photo from the cross tonight - god only know what it will be like by Tuesday.
Will leave a lasting impression with visitors I am sure but does go to highlight how badly these services are needed...
Not something we would like to post but just to show you..
5pm yesterday whilst passing through the town.
Fully agree with you there KN, but on other occasions while passing the cross have seen teenagers blantly throwing their rubbish on the ground making no attempt to use the bins provided. The crows made the situation look more ugly by scattering the rubbish. Maybe we should redirect the CCTV camera for a short time to catch the culprits.


Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:08 pm
by John S
I think what this does provide is a wake-up call, it is illegal to litter, when was the last time you heard of anyone being fined for littering? Why do so many local people have such complete disregard for the condition of the town? My concern is that, as a community, we are in danger of expecting the council to do everything for us, in order that we can have pride in the town. However, personal civic responsibility isn't something taught in school, but at home. It’s not the councils responsibility but the parents and grandparents of our children who carry the lessons learned into adulthood.
The council has a responsibility to inform, facilitate, and provide services to keep the streets clean and to enforce littering legislation. All it seems to do is keep the streets clean. And from the mess left at lunchtimes, what education there is, is having little effect.
Oban has Litterbusters, a community initiative that was set up to raise awareness and to combat litter on the streets of Oban. Is there any interest in setting up a similar organisation for Campbeltown?

Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:49 pm
by WTC
The problem we have this weekend is the fact that all the bins in the centre of town are full and overflowing. The seagulls and crows are having a feast, pulling the waste out of the bins and scattering it over the streets.
As far as I’m aware I have not seen any crows/seagulls in the court pages of the local paper. We need a bylaw to prosecute birds.
The council appears to be able to grit roads when it’s not icy, strip gum of the pavements at weekends and build new pavements at weekends and therefore have to pay workers premium rate. But on one of the towns busiest weekends we are left with a unsightly mess. What happened to “The council has a responsibility to inform, facilitate, and provide services to keep the streets clean and to enforce littering legislation”?

Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:30 pm
by mrn
I agree with WTC - the problem is the bins are full! Don't blame the kids John, in fact when we were in town yesterday it was adults who were trying to put more rubbish into a quite clearly full bin!
Or are you saying it is the adults who need educated

Do agree with civic responsibility. With the mess of the pavements outside McKellars and McIlcheres already perhaps the shop owners will show some!
Good point WTC about the Council ensuring other services are provided. I wonder what would happen if someone has an accident as a result of rubbish on the pavements and streets, would the Council be responsible.
What is it like today?

Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:12 pm
by gizmo
Could following Edinburghs example and having litter patrols hiding in doorways and dishing out £50 fines to the litterbugs be the answer... Could be a vote winner...

... I personally think it would work, certainly in conjunction with cctv. Dont think t would be very popular though...


Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:15 pm
by WTC
Will the litterbirds pay up?

Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:27 pm
by John S
mrn, I was very careful not to blame the kids, because I don't think its the kids alone. Although living on one of the main thoroughfares between the Grammar and Main St, I can tell you that every lunchtime there is a visible trail of lunchtime debris back to school in spite of the bins.
I have just been down the street, most of the bins are full, but not by any stretch all of them, people still try to put rubbish in the full ones without any hope of that rubbish actually staying there!
WTC I nether condone or condemn the fact that the bins have not been emptied, but I don't accept that it is this fact alone that is the problem. Part of the problem, I feel, is that some people expect everything to be done by some one else, and when it's not done, they see no reason to put themselves out. I feel we should all have a shared responsibility in relation to keeping Kintyre tidy.
We can always just blame it on the birds then we won't have to worry about it.

Posted:
Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:42 pm
by Paul Chuckle
me and barry will clean it up