Smoking at entrances

[hoots the scoop]

Hoots the Scoop with all these people standing at entrances of workplaces puffing away?

Is it just me or does it really irratate others when approaching an entrance now you have to weave your way through a gang of smokers, while holding your breath and feeling like someone is Stars in their Eyes!

Tescos, Council Offices are all examples of this happening not to mention places where food is served. Doesn't exactly give out the right signals does it?

[bill]

Sure I read that this too is to be banned,though I'm not sure how.

[bud]

aye pubs are the worst now to

[Stone Cold aka Doags Bs]

Smokings filthy

[daftdog]

Us non smokers can't have everything our own way.. Smokers have the right to smoke in open spaces, so as long as they are not actually standing in the doorway of the building, they are free to do what they want.

Us non smokers are now breathing a lot healthier air in pubs, cafes, restaurants, on public transport etc. Smokers can't even stand in an enclosed windproof shelter (wholly or substantially enclosed) as its against the law, as its defined a public space.

It might be annoying, but its better than it was when smokers could light up where the felt like it.

[general jack o'niell]

slow day on the forum i take it? its a wonder you don't finish your posts with "and finally esther"

e3verytime i buy a pack of fags i give gordon brown more than £3, would you rather not just stand outside tesco and mug me on the way in?

if it was so bloody addictive i'd plan for every smoker to give up for a year, see how much gordon ups taxes on other things to make up the shortfall in his budget. as to the inclusion of public transport in the list of places where you are now breathing this ficticious fresher air, i thought smoking on public transport has been banned for many years now, i certainly can't remember the last time i was allowed to light up on a bus or a train or a plane for that matter.

i do agree that it looks unsightly to see groups of smokers standing outside a building, but as its been said you can't have an enclosed area as this would be deemed a public place. the worst is over at the hospital, the smokers leave the hospital grounds and stand behind the wall at the gates to the school field, the ground is littered with fag ends, the hospital should be made to provide a bin at the very least as it is their workers who are littering the place.

common sense should prevail, smokers have rights too, its not too much to ask is it? or are we to continue to be outcasts from society, you hate us smokers but are only to happy to have us subsidise the exchequer to the tune of between 4 and 8 billion, depending on which study or poll you look at.

[spangles]

Some of the smokers may as well light up inside. They are half in and half out the door in some pubs. Was there not some legislation to say that smokers were supposed to be a few metres away from the entrance?? and tell me why can't non smokers have their own way? Smoking can cause cancer and that kills. What part of SMOKING KILLS do they find hard to understand. FFS they have even written it on the packet.

Did you know that if the nicotine from one cigarette was injected into your veins you would be dead in hours??

But to stick to the thread I went to buy a book the last day and rather than run the risk of passing through the muck blowing out the assistants lungs at the door and onto my clothes I went and bought the book in Tesco's. I think it's called voting with your feet. Her choice to smoke, my choice to spend my money elsewhere.

the exchequer to the tune of between 4 and 8 billion, depending on which study or poll you look at.

Probably wrong but does it not cost the national health more than the above to treat smoking related illnesses?

S

[general jack o'niell]

ok thats fair enough, my figures might be wrong but there is according to the poll i read about 11 million smokers in the UK, average that at 10 a day, thats nearly 17 million pounds a day to the exchequer, so a rough estimate gives you nearly six and a quarter thousand million pounds a year, are you sure theres more than that spent by the NHS on smoking related illnesses?

i don't intentially smoke around non smokers, but i've no intention of stopping, i enjoy it, it relaxes me and to throw in a couple more stats, as one of 88,000 MS sufferers and one of the million or more diabetics in the country, anything that helps me to relax, no matter the supposed or real side effects (which are no worse than some of the pills i have to take) i'll continue to do. the hoose is empty the night so its bring on the eens, nic and caff, by two best buddies.

i'm not argueing against anything you say about how unsightly it is, but i'm sure they'd all rather smoke in comfort, away from the non smokers and that worst of opponents, former smokers, who have a selfrightious attitude that gets on my tit.

[spangles]

are you sure theres more than that spent by the NHS on smoking related illnesses?
.

Nope. I did say I may be wrong. I can't be right all the time.

former smokers, who have a selfrightious attitude that gets on my tit.

GUILTY

S

[general jack o'niell]

there you go, it wasn't that hard to admit your bias was it?

now you've admitted your jealous of us for having the greater selfcontrol to continue to enjoy a smoke, you are halfway on the road to recovery

not sure what you can do now, the "i only smoke when i've had a drink" option is no longer open to you and your fellow waiverers, do you have a shed?

on a slight skew off topic didn't anyone find the report of the flaming pot and the recruitment piece below it in this weeks paper amusing, or do you have to know the connection between the two pieces?

[Sweltered]

Dirty filthy habit......and i'd have one in a minute

[general jack o'niell]

just so you don't suffer i'll have one for you right now, tho my tastes have altered over the years, when i was 11 or 12 it was No.6, then by the time i was 16 B&H gold, then as i reached 18 i moved on to marlboro, just loved the 100's, then sometime in my thirties i migrated to menthol, can't smoke a non menthol cig now, maybe i should try them, might put me off but something like a marlboro makes me feel queasy, i'm on my 6th since i logged on at 7.15pm

[Sweltered]

Haven't had one in 7 years (on your sisters birthday)There's still a packet of mine with 12 Lambert & Butler in Davaar Ave. My last pack that I didn't finish...

BTW a carton of Marlboro is about 15 quid here, some cartons are only 10...

In my office there's a screened in portch at the back where all the smokers go. It stops the rest of us from using it....it reeks!!!!

[maxmix]

If all these smokers gave up, saved their self a fortune, just think....

All the normal operations could be done on time No more overloading of the NHS.... (Gov... would just get more from the motorists lol)

Filthy habit

maxmix

PS The doorway gangs are getting worse..... At least when they are hogging the pub entrances there is an excuse....

Half cut at the time

[general jack o'niell]

can i come and live in your world? if we all gave up you would be back to the good old days when i left school and you were paying 33p in the pound to maggie for the pleasure of being employed, no smokers in the hospitals? there'd be plenty of room for all the fat bastards then? dream on, doesn't matter what the government say, they can't afford for all the smokers to stop, neither can you, unless you are already in the higher tax bracket, if so, good for you, but would you give up 50p in the pound? they reckon it would put 15p on the tax rate, or 11 or 12p with VAT going up to 20p

its the tax on petrol and cigs that keeps this country afloat, take all that away or even reduce them to the level of say the USA and this place would be on its knees within six months. not that i'd advise anyone to take it up or dissuade anyone from stopping, if we were truely pro choice on everything a few members wouldn't even be here, they'd have been flushed a few weeks after conseption