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Has always went on and always will but do people think there is an issue with it in Campbeltown and Kintyre?

hoots the scoop wrote:Has always went on and always will but do people think there is an issue with it in Campbeltown and Kintyre?

Do most people not have some sort of issue with everything going on in Campbeltown

Never a dull moment or someone complaining about something

maxmix

It is interesting to find out that the Pub Watch scheme intriduced in Campbeltown has implemented bans on anyone caught purchasing drink for anyone under 18. This will hopefully send out the correct message as it is hardly worth getting banned from every licenced premises in Campbeltown (and I believe extends outside too) for the sake of a wee half bottle.

With the apparent lack of respect by parents whose 13-16 year old kids are drinking at weekends and the fact the kids seem to think it is okay I'd welcome an extension of the Pub Watch scheme to include those under 18 who are caught drinking and ban them from their 18th birthday in the same manner us adults can be banned for breaking the law. I might add some common sense may be adopted towards the cases. I remember being 17 and drinking.

Before you go off on your high and mighty this is only a suggestion for discussion and yes I do realise there are kids out there who don't bother with alcohol but there does appear to be an issue across Scotland now that we shouldn't, as adults, bury our heads in the sand about.

Funny that this comes up today, after last night.
I was was getting onto, (in fact I was giving the young un in ma hoose a right ballakin) last night for being slightly the worse for drink, he was shouting back at me and would'nt take a telling without keeping his mouth shut, the usual teenage stuff. What pissed me off with him was the fact he was sticking his finger in my face and muttering stupid kinda slurry drunk words and swearing at me.
I thought to myself,no way am I taking this sh it from a young fla. I decided to put the light on in the hallway just to see how bad he actually was, and to my surprise there was only a big mirror in front oh me, which leads me to 1 conclusion and comment, gee the wains a bit oh slack. We've ah been there.
Reminds me oh Auld Pop.

Ninja,

You have once again brought some much needed light relief.
Dunc

With reference to "gee the wains a bit oh slack" is that simply not part of the problem/issue? Parents nowadays want to be remain young, be "cool" and act like their children's best friend by allowing their children to drink? I'm not saying for a minute their is an issue with ALL children or ALL parents but there appears to be more under age drinking going on now than ever. This again, is happening across Scotland and the UK. If you speak to the staff at the hospital I am sure they will vouch for the number of children who end up in hospital due to alcohol related incidents.

"We've ah been there" Yes, I agree with this but I certainly don't recall 13 and 14 year olds drinking when I was young. Perhaps I'm just old school and had respect for my parents? Seems nowadays parents are bending over backwards to their kids.

Some adults are to blame.

There are two ways that people my age get drink

- Steal it from their mums and dads
- get other adults in the street to buy them drink and fags

These two problems can be solved

- Mums and dads to count their drink
- Lock people up that buy underage people drink



NelsonL

Good post nelsonl. Perhaps it should extend to locking the parents up?

With reference to " get other adults in the street to buy them drink and fags" perhaps the Police should raise the profile of the Pub Watch scheme in the Courier highlighting if anyone is caught buying drink they will be suject to a ban from all licenced premises?

Haha, Locking the parents up sounds like a good idea

I ment that adults were buying drink for kids from shops like Victoria Wine ect, not from pubs. I agree with the pubwatch thing though.

NelsonL1995 wrote:I ment that adults were buying drink for kids from shops like Victoria Wine ect, not from pubs. I agree with the pubwatch thing though.

Although it is called Pub Watch the ban extends to all Licenced Premises so if an adult is caught purchasing alcohol for an under 18 he or she would be banned from all licenced premises in Campbeltown which take part in the pub watch scheme. This includes the supermarkets, restaurants etc . I didn't know this was one of the things you could be banned for so perhaps it should be highlighted more. (not that a buy "kerry oots" for under agers )

I'd say it's always the parent's fault

No control over the kids nowadays

maxmix

Good debate, and good to have a young un's views on it too.

The whole culture of drinking in this country has a lot to do with the problems of "underage drinking". Personally, I think a lot of the "overage" drinking is just as bad. The "lets go out and get pished" people. "Christ, that was a great night last night - I was soooo pished I can't remember an effing thing". So does it really matter what age a person is if they drink to excess?

Perhaps parents should be teaching "responsible drinking" but given that many of them go out and get pished themselves that would need to be along the "do as I say" line and not "do as I do". Bet that'll work....

But saying that, I know of under-agers from "good" families who have ended up the worse for wear and been in hospital or been taken home by the police or arrived home paralytic. So it's not just the parents - its peer pressure, its the availability of cheap drink, its the initiation thing, its the social acceptance of drinking to excess, its the lack of consequence for your actions, and basically it's the whole drink culture thing we have going on in this country.

There's more - but I've got to go for a refill now..

Ninja Mania wrote:Funny that this comes up today, after last night.
I was was getting onto, (in fact I was giving the young un in ma hoose a right ballakin) last night for being slightly the worse for drink, he was shouting back at me and would'nt take a telling without keeping his mouth shut, the usual teenage stuff. What pissed me off with him was the fact he was sticking his finger in my face and muttering stupid kinda slurry drunk words and swearing at me.
I thought to myself,no way am I taking this sh it from a young fla. I decided to put the light on in the hallway just to see how bad he actually was, and to my surprise there was only a big mirror in front oh me, which leads me to 1 conclusion and comment, gee the wains a bit oh slack. We've ah been there.
Reminds me oh Auld Pop.

& Nelson...it's clear you're a bright one

Thanks