The Kintyre Forum

It really does go to show how the planning process fails to interact with the local community on issues which have such an impact on how our town looks.

A recent application for the plans to the treatment works on the esplanade Campbeltown have been passed without any objection. Perhaps making more people know about these plans would raise some questions? A notice in the Courier which people may read but can't actually see the proposal doesn't work. A planning portal on the Council's website that few know about doesn't work either. Surely the public should be engaged on these discussions more?

Unfortunately the Council's website is down at the moment but once back up we will post the link to the plans there

With all the plans for the redevelopment of Campbeltown and in particular the waterfront you would think the following would never be passed? Any thoughts?

I was told by the planning department that this was to be decided on 17th November and that there was still time for comments although the official closing date for representations was 17th September. So I would be disappointed if this has been passed already.
I totally agree that this has been poorly advertised and publicised - it seems that you have to be really be expecting and looking for planning applications in order not to miss the opportunity for comment. There was no copy of this planning application in the Burnet Building when I asked for it last week and the Community Council did not receive a copy.

These proposals are quite frankly horrendous!

might be ok until the plastic bags, fag ends and other general garbage get blown or thrown in there. Whats the alternative, if any??

mary wrote:I was told by the planning department that this was to be decided on 17th November and that there was still time for comments although the official closing date for representations was 17th September. So I would be disappointed if this has been passed already.
I totally agree that this has been poorly advertised and publicised - it seems that you have to be really be expecting and looking for planning applications in order not to miss the opportunity for comment. There was no copy of this planning application in the Burnet Building when I asked for it last week and the Community Council did not receive a copy.

Mary

Yes, it looks like the application has been referred again

http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/PublicAcc ... XVMCH0CM00

Looks like this was all done last Tuesday but does not include any notification to the Community Council? (!)

Out of interest does anyone know when exactly do you become a neighbour when it comes to an application plan?

No, that's another application - it is for a renewal of the planning permission for that "temporary" blue gantry thing etc. The application under discussion for the new buildings is a different application with a different ref no and I was informed that it would be decided on Nov 17th. I think we should ask for it to be deferred so that those who wish to comment can do so. Since there are no plans to start that part of the work for a while it would not delay progress with the over-all solution.

Kintyre Forum News wrote:Out of interest does anyone know when exactly do you become a neighbour when it comes to an application plan?

As far as I am aware your "neighbour" within the context of planning applications is anyone who's property borders yours and if one of those borders is the shore then that neighbour would be the Crown Estate.

Yes, that would usually be true but I think it was established that the Council owned the seabed and beaches around the loch - if that is the case then the Council would be the neighbour

mary wrote:No, that's another application - it is for a renewal of the planning permission for that "temporary" blue gantry thing etc. The application under discussion for the new buildings is a different application with a different ref no and I was informed that it would be decided on Nov 17th. I think we should ask for it to be deferred so that those who wish to comment can do so. Since there are no plans to start that part of the work for a while it would not delay progress with the over-all solution.

Mary - sorry I was in a bit of a hurry. Of course, you are correct, it is in fact this application.

http://www.argyll-bute.gov.uk/PlanApp/j ... 9/01183/PP

The Planning Portal isn't the easiest tool for people to use. It tends to assume you know what to look for. Will you be asking for this to be deferred?

No, that won't be necessary - Richard Kerr has asked Scottish Water to make some improvements and they have agreed - the metal railings will be changed to a low wall to match the play area's wall, the generator will be in a small stone clad building adjoining the main building, the concrete will be painted green so its not so obtrusive when viewed from Aqualibrium and they will plant a suitable hedge round the whole site. I'm not sure that I have all the details but that's the gist of it and I think that's the best we can hope for.

mary wrote:No, that won't be necessary - Richard Kerr has asked Scottish Water to make some improvements and they have agreed - the metal railings will be changed to a low wall to match the play area's wall, the generator will be in a small stone clad building adjoining the main building, the concrete will be painted green so its not so obtrusive when viewed from Aqualibrium and they will plant a suitable hedge round the whole site. I'm not sure that I have all the details but that's the gist of it and I think that's the best we can hope for.

Here is hoping the site is maintained better than the previous one. The current building looks out of place so can't see any additional buildings/fences fitting in.

Back to the point about planning notification, it doesn't make any sense to just notify the nearest people in a site that so many people pass in a daily basis and one on our esplanade. As Mary says if you aren't actually looking for it how do you know there is a planning application?

Good to see the Kintyre Forum mentioned in the Campbeltown Courier today! Does anyone have any update on the planning application situation? Mary?