Referendom

[ionnsaigh]

Aye quite right tae.

[Beachcomber]

Surely Glasgow University rejected your sons claim, on the grounds that he doesn't reside in Scotland.

No, he had to pay because he was 'English' - not because he doesn't reside in Scotland.

From my reading of the relevent regulations English-born students are eligible for free tuition so long as they have been resident in Scotland for the three years prior to the start of their course, which seems a pretty commonsense rule, really.

[Govangirl]

From my reading of the relevent regulations English-born students are eligible for free tuition so long as they have been resident in Scotland for the three years prior to the start of their course, which seems a pretty commonsense rule, really.

I agree Beachcomber but it is only, ONLY the English to which this rule applies, not to other EEC students. And in a nutshell, the people who are paying their taxes for it! As I said before, it's a great policy and I applaud SNP for it but I believe that my son who has Scottish parents both educated in Scotland and with 2 sets of grandparents, Uncles, Aunts, etc. living there, he'd be seen as Scottish and entitled to Uni fees there.
OR open it to Scottish residents, not to every Tom, Dick and Manual too!

[Beachcomber]

I agree Beachcomber but it is only, ONLY the English to which this rule applies, not to other EEC students.

Presumably by singling out the English students for special treatment the intention was to avoid an avalanche of people nipping across the border and claiming free tuition. The three year stipulation is there, I'd guess, to ensure students (or their parents more likely) have been living and contributing to the local economy for a reasonable period and so morally justified in receiving what is a 'local' benefit.

[Govangirl]

Presumably by singling out the English students for special treatment the intention was to avoid an avalanche of people nipping across the border and claiming free tuition.

Then presumably it's okay to nip across the European borders, just not Hadrian's Wall?

[Beachcomber]

Presumably by singling out the English students for special treatment the intention was to avoid an avalanche of people nipping across the border and claiming free tuition.

Then presumably it's okay to nip across the European borders, just not Hadrian's Wall?

Non-UK EU students also have to have been resident in the UK for three years to qualify, and living in Scotland at the time.

[Malky]

Of course, if a Scottish student goes to a university south of the border he/she will have to pay the fees there.

Back to the referendum and I see Wendy Alexander calling Alex Salmond's bluff by doing a complete U-turn and now calling for a referendum as soon as possible.

Malky

[Ranald]

Of course, if a Scottish student goes to a university south of the border he/she will have to pay the fees there.

Back to the referendum and I see Wendy Alexander calling Alex Salmond's bluff by doing a complete U-turn and now calling for a referendum as soon as possible.

Malky

The last act of a desperate woman and a desperate party I reckon.

[ionnsaigh]

Ranald, same here.

[EMDEE]

It certainly looks like wee Wendy's coat's on a shoogly peg.

[Sheik Yir Erse]

Ok Wendy, ......... ready .......... aim ......... fire

[A Horse called Juan Face]

Right, just a thought, if Scotland get independence, would it mean our taxes taking a steep climb?
I mean at the moment the tax is shared equally for Great Britain between 65m people or so. It covers everything, if we as a runt have to pay for everything involved in the tax wouldnt we be paying more just due to the lack of numbers in our runt. Where else is the money to run the runt going to come from? Not the North Sea, that money will keep going where its going at the moment, into peoples pockets.

Please enlighten me as to this puzzler.

[ionnsaigh]

Right, just a thought, if Scotland get independence, would it mean our taxes taking a steep climb?
I mean at the moment the tax is shared equally for Great Britain between 65m people or so. It covers everything, if we as a runt have to pay for everything involved in the tax wouldnt we be paying more just due to the lack of numbers in our runt. Where else is the money to run the runt going to come from? Not the North Sea, that money will keep going where its going at the moment, into peoples pockets.

Please enlighten me as to this puzzler.

That is the one reason that a new government would have to address immediately - chiefly the unequal distribution of wealth and the antagonistic contradictions that follow . Poverty Crime Homelessness Ill Health. I would rather have decent houses for people - good jobs - great schools and hospitals - than finance a standing army.
Our tax at the moment - reflects payment to the three other runts in the equation - named Britain. Take the other three out of the equation - then your left with a proportion equal to our own runt.

[EMDEE]

Right, just a thought, if Scotland get independence, would it mean our taxes taking a steep climb?
I mean at the moment the tax is shared equally for Great Britain between 65m people or so. It covers everything, if we as a runt have to pay for everything involved in the tax wouldnt we be paying more just due to the lack of numbers in our runt. Where else is the money to run the runt going to come from? Not the North Sea, that money will keep going where its going at the moment, into peoples pockets.

Please enlighten me as to this puzzler.

Why do you use the word "runt"?

[A Horse called Juan Face]

Well thats my fault, after reading my post the first time I thought id written country too many times, so then I took the o out so it might look like I was trying to be a smart arse, and the forum changed it to runt. I decided to leave it simply to amuse myself. Not sure why Ionnsaigh was using it though.

Anyway, back to the point, Im not so sure that would happen. The tax is spread evenly across the four nations for all amenities. Surely the sheer size of Englands population means they are paying to accommodate us at the moment. I understand how it should be, but am not convinced thats how it will be. Think if we get independence tax would go up for sure. Pretty much the only reason I have against independence tho, other than if it happens before next February I might not get back in the country.