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A US medic gets one year for his part in abduction and murder. Maybe Saddam will get Six Months- with a years probation.

What exactly was his part?

He admits taking part in the abduction but claims he shot over the guy's head after asking the other soldiers to release him. Agreed to give evidence as part of a plea bargain. (According to today's Herald)

Thank ewe, beach

ionnsaigh wrote:A US medic gets one year for his part in abduction and murder. Maybe Saddam will get Six Months- with a years probation.

The weirdest thing about Saddam and his sons is, he was accused of murdering thousands, and his sons were accused of multiple rapes, tortures and murders, but told if they would hand over Iraq they could leave the country. Now I ask you.... You've tortured, murdered, pillaged, raped... get out of town and don't come back. How much sense is that? The mind boggles.

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:What exactly was his part?

He was part of a foreign occupation force

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:

ionnsaigh wrote:A US medic gets one year for his part in abduction and murder. Maybe Saddam will get Six Months- with a years probation.

The weirdest thing about Saddam and his sons is, he was accused of murdering thousands, and his sons were accused of multiple rapes, tortures and murders, but told if they would hand over Iraq they could leave the country. Now I ask you.... You've tortured, murdered, pillaged, raped... get out of town and don't come back. How much sense is that? The mind boggles.

The weirdest thing about Bush and his Dad is, they have been accused of murdering thousands-yet junior remains leader
how much sense is that?...The mind boggles.
PS
Who told them to get out of town?

ionnsaigh wrote:

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:

ionnsaigh wrote:A US medic gets one year for his part in abduction and murder. Maybe Saddam will get Six Months- with a years probation.

The weirdest thing about Saddam and his sons is, he was accused of murdering thousands, and his sons were accused of multiple rapes, tortures and murders, but told if they would hand over Iraq they could leave the country. Now I ask you.... You've tortured, murdered, pillaged, raped... get out of town and don't come back. How much sense is that? The mind boggles.

The weirdest thing about Bush and his Dad is, they have been accused of murdering thousands-yet junior remains leader
how much sense is that?...The mind boggles.
PS
Who told them to get out of town?

Who accused them of murder?

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Things are so much better in the UK.

I don't know a great deal about the differences between the US and UK justice and penal systems, but the general impression I get is that the US system is a lot more severe for offenders.

I don't have details of the case that started this thread to give any opinion, but know that taking items of news out of context and giving a one dimensional view can sometimes give the wrong impression. The newspapers are experts at it.

EMDEE wrote:I don't know a great deal about the differences between the US and UK justice and penal systems, but the general impression I get is that the US system is a lot more severe for offenders.

I don't have details of the case that started this thread to give any opinion, but know that taking items of news out of context and giving a one dimensional view can sometimes give the wrong impression. The newspapes are experts at it.

I see George Micheal was cautioned for posession of cannabis, AGAIN, if the was over here , he would on the receiving end of a very long sentence. And rightly so.

Believe it or not, Florida is a lot tougher on some things than other parts of the country. In Texas he'd pretty much get his hand slapped. Neither I nor my kids know of anyone who has gone to jail for marijuana in years. I'm not saying it never happens, but it would probably have to be a large amount, or tacked on with other, more serious charges. (Edited: I'm not positive about the statistics I was quoting.) In Texas, there are bigger crimes to concentrate on, such as the following.

Sixteen years for a Snickers bar
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Last week, a Texas jury recommended that Kenneth Payne, 29, spend 16 years in jail. Payne's crime? Stealing a Snickers bar from a Tyler, Texas grocery store on December 17, 1999.

When Smith county Assistant District Attorney Jodi Brown was asked by the Associated Press how she could justify 16 years for the theft of a Snickers bar, Brown replied "It was a king size."

A king size Snickers bar it was. Retail price: $1.

In Texas, if you steal property worth less than $500, it's a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of $500 with no jail time. The case was brought as a felony because Payne was a habitual offender. He had ten previous convictions -- including one for stealing a bag of Oreo cookies -- and had spent seven years in Texas prisons. When he shoved the king sized Snickers bar down his pants he was on parole for felony theft. Still, the guy was a petty thief -- he stole cookies and candy bars.

I know of someone who's third strike was possession, of a small amount of weed, in Arizona...he got 40 years

Ouch, it must still be a felony offense there. If he was in Maricopa County (Phoenix), he probably had to wear pink also. I suppose there is a lesson to be learned about following the laws of the land.

I had to take the statistics off above because the more I read , the more I read that Texas actually has the largest number of prisoners who are in for marijuana offenses: Florida 534, Texas 1215 (in a report put out in 2005). It doesn't give the amount and we are right next to the Mexican border, so not sure if the majority are sellers or small users.

I found this and thought it was interesting: http://healthyhorns.utexas.edu/education/marijuana.html

*With no prior felony convictions, if convicted of possession of less than one pound of marijuana a judge must impose a sentence of probation with mandatory drug treatment. If no treatment center exists within the jurisdiction, the judge may waive the treatment requirement. They judge can also waive all fines.

It ain't the marijuana users we send the posse after, it is those feared and hated gol' dern Snickers snatchers.