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keep your head while all others around you....

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:10 am
by jester and the fool
Well there you go ,Iraq asks a room full of journos to witness two hangings to show the world they have got it right and there would not be a repeat of the previous fiasco.This time it would be done in a proper and professional manner.The condemned men chose to wear hoods over their heads and they got to wear orange boiler suits.First man fell through trap door,job done.Second fell,everything looking a-ok,but alas no,someone messed up.For as the rope pulled tight around the neck of the second condemned man as he reached the end of the rope,his body continued to fall to the ground.There was silence in the crowd of the spectators who were invited.Utter disbelief in what had just been witnessed.The head had just been ripped off the body.
Now the Iraqis ushered the press to a "green zone" where it was stated that it was not their fault."The rope never broke" EH,WHAT THE .... :?
Whoever took the measurements of these these men (height weight etc) and then calculated the length of rope and drop required to break the neck,made a bit of a mess :roll: Whether it was intentional or not who knows. I think it was wrong.These hangings are the countries sentence for the crimes that they were found guilty of.They were sentenced in a court of law of that country(rightly or wrongly).That sentence should have been carried out in a professional manner,and not like a common lynching.Is it right that their sentences were carried out like they have done to others?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:01 pm
by bill
Aye ye just cannae get the staff these days right enuff,but I'm sure there wusnae nae need to be lossin the heid. :roll: :roll:

Re: keep your head while all others around you....

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:42 pm
by Beachcomber
jester and the fool wrote:Whoever took the measurements of these these men (height weight etc) and then calculated the length of rope and drop required to break the neck,made a bit of a mess :roll:


They didn't even need to calculate it; there's a copy of the Drop Tables on Wikipedia that they could have just looked up. Tsk!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:23 pm
by Neil
saddam's cat

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:30 pm
by bill
Aye very good Neil,made me laugh :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: keep your head while all others around you....

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:13 am
by jfine
jester and the fool wrote:That sentence should have been carried out in a professional manner,and not like a common lynching.

Is there a professional way to kill someone?

Charles Bronson in The Mechanic, maybe that's a professional way to kill someone---all these amateurs being micro-managed just aint prime time.

Re: keep your head while all others around you....

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:28 pm
by dgraves
jfine wrote:
jester and the fool wrote:That sentence should have been carried out in a professional manner,and not like a common lynching.

Is there a professional way to kill someone?

Charles Bronson in The Mechanic, maybe that's a professional way to kill someone---all these amateurs being micro-managed just aint prime time.


Anyone watch the new "24"?? Jack Bowers has invented a new professional killing method. If you're tied up and the enemy comes within head reach, just latch on to his neck with your teeth and bite out a hunk :shock:

Re: keep your head while all others around you....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:05 pm
by petewick
dgraves wrote:
jfine wrote:
jester and the fool wrote:That sentence should have been carried out in a professional manner,and not like a common lynching.

Is there a professional way to kill someone?

Charles Bronson in The Mechanic, maybe that's a professional way to kill someone---all these amateurs being micro-managed just aint prime time.


Anyone watch the new "24"?? Jack Bowers has invented a new professional killing method. If you're tied up and the enemy comes within head reach, just latch on to his neck with your teeth and bite out a hunk :shock:



Dracula style?

Re: keep your head while all others around you....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:44 pm
by dgraves
petewick wrote:Dracula style?


More like pit bull style...I yelled and nearly jumped out of my chair! That was some new season opener.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:15 pm
by bill
The 2005 film "The Last Hangman" where Timothy Spall protrayed Albert Pierrepoint gives a good insight as to how it should be done.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:22 pm
by petewick
bill wrote:The 2005 film "The Last Hangman" where Timothy Spall protrayed Albert Pierrepoint gives a good insight as to how it should be done.


Believe that Pierrepoint hanged 17 in one day, his biggest kill.
Apparently when he retired and had time to reflect on his career, he lived the rest of his days in a state of morbid regret and remorse.
If that's not a case against the death penalty, I don't know what is.

petewick

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:59 pm
by Pete Reek
Bills point about the film giving an insight into Pierrepoint is correct.

However, his book gives an even better one and is unlikely to veer away from the true facts like most films do.

He took his work very seriously and was always careful to ensure he had all the details correct.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:51 am
by jester and the fool
Cheers lads,maybe the word professional was not the best choice,but pete reek & wick and also bill seem to get where i was coming from.

Not read book pete reek,but would love to.Can you give a heads up on it at all?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:53 pm
by Pete Reek
Hi Jester

Read the book some years ago and I think I have passed it on to someone. If not I will let you have a read.

Anyway, he was continuing a family involvement in Capital Punishment and carried out all the hangings for the Prison Service here and was also called on at times to do the deed in Ireland. I don't remember the section on 17 hangings in the one day however. That of course could be placed firmly at the door of brain cell degeneration!

If I remember correctly he was not that enamoured of his, shall I say apprentice, as he seemed to break the mould as it were. A Charles Bronson type Albert most certainly was not.

Having such a ghoulish job it's easy to forget that he was also a family man.

This thread has now condemned me to an afternoon of looking through old books to see if I can turn up the one on the hangman that was Albert Pierrepont.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:47 pm
by jester and the fool
Ah,you are by far Sir,surely too kind.However i appreciate the trouble you are going to.Whether you are/were successful or not i appreciate your effort an time,thanks.
oh the morbid fascination - cooeee Amazon here i come