The Kintyre Forum

To members of the Scottish armed forces.
I would urge you to consider desertion as a means of protection from the horrors that await you in Afghanistan and Iraq. Why should Scottish workers kill Iraqi workers to satisfy the blood thirst of an English minister. Don't go to war stay at home with your loved ones, we reject entirely the wars of English imperialism that see our sons and daughters become murderers, or being killed in the name of freedom. I offer sanctuary and passage to a safe place.

Ask yourself when you see those horrifying images of the carnage in Iraq, do you really want to take part in the brutal savagery, how will you feel if you have to pull the trigger, say ten years down the line. Please don't go object with your feet - walk away with the dignity you deserve. Desert with dignity Arise.

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I think that would be better posted here:

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums.html

Unfortunatly its still the british army not the scottish army so we dont really have much of a say in this matter. Not that id listen to you anyway.

Definately lost it this time

...And just when he was doing so well...

Bill why did you delete your previous post re war years you can't even get that right tut tut.

Ionns, what safe passage do you offer the innocent iraqis who are going to the market for bread and milk for their kids?

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:Ionns, what safe passage do you offer the innocent iraqis who are going to the market for bread and milk for their kids?

Sadly Bobbie they never required safe passage until you know who invaded

Yes, and I hated that he did that, was against it from the beginning, and obviously the reasons I had for not wanting to go came to pass..

But, what you are saying is about as sensible as saying, the guy in the next town burned my house down, so I am going to kill the people living in my town. In your hatred for America, you excuse murderous people who plan killings of women and children in a market place. come on, ionns.. even you have to see that maybe there is more to this than you are allowing yourself to see.

I can call a snake a snake, regardless whose "side" the snake is on, you need to be honest about what you are defending.

How can you possibly be taken seriously about wanting peace in the world, when you are excusing murderers just because they hate your enemy (along with everyone else they hate).

Bobbie, no your wrong in thinking that I hate America on the contrary, I admire.
I can list many Americans who I hold dear, and having influence, particularly in your own war against the crown. These include: Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, David Rittenhouse,Samuel Adams, George Washington, General Horatio Gates, General Charles Lee, General William Irwin,William Gordon, John Cartwright,Colonel Christopher Cadsden, Timothy Matlack, Thomas Mifflin, Christopher Marshal, James Cannon, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, General Daniel Roberdeau,General Nanthanal Greene, Chief Last Night, Charles Wilson Peale, Colonel Joseph Kirkbride, Mary Kirkbride Rogers, Commodore Haslewood, Colonel Joseph Hart, William Hart, Arthur Lee.
The Pennsylvania militia and all who fought and died for independence.

yet you don't support the US helping the Iraqis getting rid of Saddam's oppressive regime.


hmmm double standard as usual.

Sweltered,
No.

Ionnsaigh - As we live in a democracy, i respect your right to your views and opinions,and the fact that you can "air" them freely,but c,mom.!!
You urge for desertion,it is wrong,think of your families etc bla bla bla (lordy haw haw) I am sure they are all well aware of the horrors of war,on both sides and the innocents of course because they are there- are you? Pretty sure also that if they wanted to do a runner they would,without the help of us non combatants also.
As for the war itself,well more people are against it the more it goes on,so what does that say about joe public?


On a personal note i find your comment about desertion an insult and a slur on the fallen and their families.(just an opinion,- that i have the freedom to express)

selective principles, marvellous