Council Single Status/Job Evaluation

[SmithD]

Was going to refresh the original post about this but couldn't find it.

But now that we have our new councillors, just wondering what their views and actions are going to be? The deadline for the appeals is 29th May 2007.

I'm aware Donald Kelly, cannot be included, but now we have 2 other councillors, just wondering how and if they can help in this!

[jester and the fool]

Unions pushing for a day of strike action,sometime in june (alledgedly).All depts.First since A&BDC came into being,or so i read.I am not against equal pay,far from it,but come on!!!-the way it has all been worked out. NOBODY comes out of it unscathed,myself included.

Councillors new and old gonnae help - MY ARSE.A wee huff and a puff and then sod it "-am away tae hae a brew an dae ma expenses"

[John S]

Smith D,

I don't have magic wand and, given that the majority of the councillors who were in power when the equal status proposal was brought before the council, got back in; making progress to come up with an improved one will be a slow process. The lack of change in the council also suggests that the single status proposal did not register significantly enough with the community to vote out the incumbents.

Hopefully it will be possible to reach a new settlement, I don't intend to predict if or what that will be, there will be a great deal of information to absorb and negotiation to take place before then. However my personal standpoint, as I said to you on the doorstep, is based on my current understanding, that the spirit of equal status was to improve the pay and conditions of workers who were not being paid a wage equal to the work involved in their job, not to downgrade workers pay and conditions.

I don't intend to give a running commentary on how things progress on here, pay and conditions are personal matters. When detail of any new proposal the council makes is published I'll be happy to discuss it generally and face to face more specifically with individuals affected.

Councillors new and old gonnae help - MY ar$e.A wee huff and a puff and then sod it "-am away tae hae a brew an dae ma expenses"

Jester, I'd really like to use this forum to inform and discuss council issues, comments like this are not going to encourage me to do so. I will be ignoring anybody posting derogatory comments like this unless they have the courage to put their real name to it.
John Semple

[SmithD]

John, it was a view on the Evaluation I was looking for, not solution! At the moment there is not solution. Just got to read thro the 80 pages and write my appeal. I wish it was a easy as that. The appeal process is too general for the answers they are looking for, it goes from a road worker to a clerical worker. How they can differ this in the appeal?

But I was wondering about the support that council employees are going to get? Are Councillors not there to support their constituients that voted them in? The 23% odd that have the red circle may not seem a lot, but you will find that the majority are the backbone of the council. From grave diggers to a mere clerical assistant who answers the phone for the council? If they were to stop working, would the Council not ground to a halt? No bins being emptied, no Council Tax payments being taking. It is the general workers that are losing out!


I see the point on underpaid Council employees, but not when you have worked for years up your grade just to be toppled down, to the top of a the new grading system, and to gain more money you have to apply for a new job! I'm not going to give away what I will loose or how many years I've been with the council, but I've not worked to be told that I've to apply for a new higher graded job just to get what 'Im being paid for now!

The only help Council employees are getting is from their Union, as this is their duty to help them!

Do we know the adverage green circle rise?

I say fair do's to the strike, as I will be there!

[jester and the fool]

Apologies to Mr Semple.
Perhaps my comments were a bit crass,but as you are aware feelings are running high on this subject.I was sounding off. I was not specifically looking for or expecting any answers.Unions blaming Councils,Councils blaming Unions,as SmithD says,there are no solutions at the moment.People are disillusioned and moral is not good.There are councilors out there,who work hard for their money,but there are those who do not,and i am feeling a bit of the"half empty glass" syndrome.Hence my negative comments.At the time of writing this i am aware that the dead line for appeals at the end of the month has been scrapped.Meetings with one particular union have also been cancelled this month. I am just a wee fish and dont know the reasons why.
I will sign this for you Mr Semple,because i have apologised to you.Not because i want to prove to you how "courageous " i am,or because i am afraid to be branded a coward.
If you feel it takes courage to sign your name well...................

Mr A. McIntyre

[John S]

It's honourable you are Sir, much appreciated.

[general jack o'niell]

good for you john, i don't pretend to know anything about this issue, but i did hear a neighbour berate one of your fellow councillors when he went to her door. another neighbour had a few choice words to say about the other elected member, so i gather that it's only yourself that can bring a fresh viewpoint to this issue locally, oh and thanks for feeding the boy tonight, i won't count that as a bribe to ensure my good behaviour, not that i forsee any postings from me regarding yourself that would need me to stick my john hancock at the bottom.