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Postby general jack o'niell » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:39 pm

i'm sorry your friends thought fit to stop posting due to insults, personally i thought the remark mild in fact so mild i had to re-read the reply that offended you twice before i found it. rise above the percieved slight and keep posting, opinions are the lifeblood of the site, your "friends" must be pretty thin skinned as the moderators are pretty good at weeding out anything that goes beyond banter, on the otherhand some people and i'm not including you as you haven't posted enough yet, but some see any opposing opinion as an insult, they are the ones most likely to make personal attacks on others, the person who you think offended you is not one of those, i took his reply as being light hearted, but then he sticks one finger in his ear when he sings and only knows the first verse of any song except the aforementioned "royal" canal.
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Postby smokynuk » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:52 pm

general jack o'niell wrote:i'm sorry your friends thought fit to stop posting due to insults, personally i thought the remark mild in fact so mild i had to re-read the reply that offended you twice before i found it.
Ynow Jack im not surprised you found those comments mild as you are one of the regulars on here that partake to rude comments and put downs that may amount to "light banter" to you, but is extremely off putting to others.

Also being a local, and a regular visitor to this site i am extremely surprised that you do not know that many people dont post on here due to the "regulars" attacking anyone with a different opinion, NOT vise versa.

general jack o'niell wrote:opinions are the lifeblood of the site.
True, as they are the lifeblood to any forum. However, when those with opinions resort to abusive comments, it lowers the tone and puts off proper discussion of the topic at hand. A point in fact which has been raised on another thtread that i took part in recently.

general jack o'niell wrote:your "friends" must be pretty thin skinned as the moderators are pretty good at weeding out anything that goes beyond banter.
I would disagree there. I used to be a moderator on several other forums for several years which were run properly and in such an environment, no one had a "fear" of posting lest they get lynched for making a different comment. If the moderators and/or admin staff would take a leaf out of the thousands of other forums on the net they may learn a thing or two on conduct, off topic posts, spam and what can amount to bullying online.
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Postby bill » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:03 pm

Smokynuk,

I do not see why you are having a go at "Gen Jack" as "up the road's complaint" is infact directed at "campbell a".

I too had to go back and read the "offending post" a few times to see where the problem lay.

As for people getting "lynched" for having a different opinion,a slight exaggeration to the truth.
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Postby smokynuk » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:08 pm

bill wrote:I do not see why you are having a go at "Gen Jack" as "up the road's complaint" is infact directed at "campbell a".
whos having a go at him? its just light banter 8)
In anycase maybe you should ask Jack why he replied to a comment that wasnt made to him, if it was directed at Campbell a?? Surely thats just as valid a question bill
bill wrote:I too had to go back and read the "offending post" a few times to see where the problem lay.

As for people getting "lynched" for having a different opinion,a slight exaggeration to the truth.
Well then I guess i can put you in the same boat then. You people cant see the wood for the trees, because i knew EXACTLY what UP THE ROAD meant as soon as i read campbell a's post and i know for a fact im not the only one. Im just the only one who would say something about it.
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Postby Malky » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:17 pm

smokynuk wrote:I used to be a moderator on several other forums for several years which were run properly and in such an environment, no one had a "fear" of posting lest they get lynched for making a different comment. If the moderators and/or admin staff would take a leaf out of the thousands of other forums on the net they may learn a thing or two on conduct, off topic posts, spam and what can amount to bullying online.

Thanks for vote of confidence :wink: Actually there are only 2 of us on here, who lead other - at times often busy - lives. It's not really possible to read everything that is posted on here but we do our best. You say you used to be a moderator on other forums - are you looking for a job on here then?

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Postby general jack o'niell » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:19 pm

glad you edited that, would hate to have seen the original, was that an opinion or a piece of banter or forum bullying, or campbeltown sarcasm, which the vast majority are party to and i think enjoy. i see you've decided to single me out and therefor implying that i am a forum bully. since another of you complaints is the tendency for going off topic, i take it this is a sine die offence on any forum you've moderated? i could go on, but what i would call a legpull will obviously be seen by you as cyber bullying or a personal attack, despite the fact i posted in your defence you chose to turn it into an opportunity to havee a go at me, your perogative, your opinion, who am i to deny you your opinion? what i won't ignore is the slight on the people who run this forum, they do a great job and these friends of yours who no longer post? i've heard this before and it puzzled me then, still does, i chat with the same people that i have been in communication with since i joined, the ones who disagree with me, the ones who agree, none have fallen by the wayside, granted there are one or two i don't exchange posts with but that is to avoid the kind of incident of which you speak, self control its called, i can only assume that your friends are a bit sheltered in their views, this is not a mutual appreciation society, if you want that join the masons. oh dear, the trouser leg brigade might get upset, tough.

i am truely sorry if you find exchange with persons who might have an opposing view distasteful, we can't all be the same, otherwise this would be the tory party, i should just say here that this is the longest post i've ever done without making a joke about myself, if you bothered to read them you'd see that the only people i insult are the ones i'm in the habit of talking to outwith the forum, people i've known for years, i never treat strangers the same, how could i? i've no idea who they are, so how can i make personal attacks against a screen name? i defy you to say different, i've no need to make fun of strangers, theres plenty well kent faces that are more deserving and might i say appreciative of a bit of harmless banter, i take as good as i give, we might not have a life but at least we have a sense of humour or the ridiculous, free the smartarse four, they deserve your pity not your scorn
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Postby Sweltered » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:21 pm

smokynuk wrote:Also being a local, and a regular visitor to this site i am extremely surprised that you do not know that many people dont post on here due to the "regulars" attacking anyone with a different opinion, NOT vise versa.



With 97 posts in 5 months, I'd hardly say Campbell A is a "regular". His posts are however bye and large valid and often entertaining.

And since you obviously would rather everyone agreed with everyone else, you are quite right about everything.

This is not an attack, merely an observation.
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Postby general jack o'niell » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:23 pm

you keep oot of it, i'm big enough and campbell's ugly enough to fight our own battles
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Postby smokynuk » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:25 pm

Malky wrote:Thanks for vote of confidence :wink: Actually there are only 2 of us on here, who lead other - at times often busy - lives. It's not really possible to read everything that is posted on here but we do our best. You say you used to be a moderator on other forums - are you looking for a job on here then?

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Im sorry Malky, I would have to decline as the local posse would be banging on my door with torches and pitchforks because i dont agree with the way they post on here.

I dont care what any of them says, but from what i gather is that they have had a run of this place for far to long, stifling proper conversations by insults, off topic posts, and just general drivel. I can GUARANTEE you Malky that if this forum didnt have the bad rep that it has, there would be alot more meaningful conversations going on here and opinions expressed by alot more people which is what a proper forum is meant to be about. Instead you got people insulting newcommers, then you got their "homeboys" defending their actions. Its almost a closed shop here mate.
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Postby Sweltered » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:26 pm

I was only making an observation...ya big bully :evil: :wink:
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Postby Malky » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:26 pm

general jack o'niell wrote:what i won't ignore is the slight on the people who run this forum, they do a great job ..

Why you sticking up for me? I banned you - remember :lol:

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Postby smokynuk » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:29 pm

Sweltered wrote:With 97 posts in 5 months, I'd hardly say Campbell A is a "regular". His posts are however bye and large valid and often entertaining.

And since you obviously would rather everyone agreed with everyone else, you are quite right about everything.

This is not an attack, merely an observation.
Was waiting for you to post little boy, now run along back to your little roundabout lest you get trampled on again then cry out "ooohhh im not biting" Ohh and by the way, thats not an attack, it is just "light banter" or just an "observation" 8)

In any case I never said i am "right about everything" you are now impying i am saying things that i did not.

Run along now little boy :lol:
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Postby general jack o'niell » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:30 pm

wheesht, i'd blocked that week out, now i have to go thru the whole grieving process and weeks of recovery all over again, do you realise it was nearly two months before i felt comfortable to be sarcastic outwith my own four walls, even then the padding stayed up till nearly the end of october
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Postby general jack o'niell » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:32 pm

ha ha he called you a little boy, does he naw know you live in florida? mind you i suppose 16st does count as little over there!!!!!
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Postby smokynuk » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:32 pm

general jack o'niell wrote:ha ha he called you a little boy, does he naw know you live in florida? mind you i suppose 16st does count as little over there!!!!!
i was refering to his mental age :lol:
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