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Chicken

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:48 am
by EMDEE
This article appeared in the Press and Journal Today. I know that the recent publicity has made me more fussy about eggs and poultry and wonder what are the views of any other forum members.


Click here to read the article

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:46 am
by general jack o'niell
i'm of the old school, if they don't want you to eat it why did they make them out of meat?
honestly can't tell the difference except when i get eggs that come straight from a local farm, haven't been getting my weekly dozen recently, must look into that, but supermarket eggs all taste the same, be they factory, barn, farm or free range, might be a variation in size but the flavour is the same, not that i eat eggs and you never heard me say i did, shhh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:27 am
by spangles
Emdee I was used to eggs from hens that roamed anywhere they pleased. Nowadays we try to buy local ones that are allowed to do the same. There is a large difference between them and store bought ones both in colour and in taste. The local ones being far superior.

Something I have noticed when I am forced to buy in the supermarket is that the eggs in Tesco that say they are free range don't have any different taste to them than barn ones. I suppose if you can add yellow dye to smoked fish to make it look more attractive then maybe a way has been found to make barn eggs more yellow and then call them Free Range.

I noticed recently that the cost of hen feed has shot up dramatically!!
S

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:04 pm
by Sweltered
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:36 pm
by general jack o'niell
glad i'm not the only one that thinks supermarket eggs just taste like eggs, the ralston's eggs on the other hand are braw

wots the thing with sell by dates on eggs, we used to keep eggs for weeks aboard the boat, ok so you occasionally got a bad one but they used to keep in the press, no bother at all, now you have sell by dates, keep them in the fridge, and the worst is getting told to "throw those eggs out, they're out of date" i'm naw understandin?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:50 pm
by ionnsaigh
Well I once enjoyed eating chicken - although I have never eaten eggs - except maybe in a cake.
I remember a Psychologist postulating - and in the payment of McDonalds - justifying intensive farming of chickens. The kernel of their argument. The chicken never knew anything other - it would never miss - what it never had. Yet we see a marked difference in terms of quality in both the egg and the chicken.
The rays of the Sun stimulate vitamin production. Chicken or Human it makes absolutely no difference.
A Healthy chicken on the plate - was a happy chicken in the field. We like to feel the warmth of the Sun - upon our frames - no more so the Chicken. To continually keep the stock - in inhuman conditions - that ultimately denies the right - of fulling maximum potential - then that is a crime - against us all - regardless - man or chicken. Recognise poverty - see it as the unnecessary evil that it surely is .

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:36 am
by EMDEE
I think some of the change has to do with disgust rather than guilt.

We have bought cheap chicken and eggs for decades now, without a thought, but when we see these unfortunate animals wading about in their own excrement, unable to walk properly because their weight gain has exceeded their muscular development, some of us don't want to buy the product.

Is it because we feel some sympathy for them?

Or is it that we think the product is in some way tainted by the conditions that these birds are living in?

I tend to think that "barn eggs" is a euphemism for "battery eggs".

I am of an age that I can remember when chicken was for special occasions (in Campbeltown anyway), and can confirm that I have never recently tasted chicken like the one that we used to get every Christmas from a local farm with all its feathers on and its feet tied together and its head swinging. A lot more work, but a real free range chicken,not what we buy in the supermarkets now. The texture and flavour were far superior.

Or is this just nostalgia?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:25 am
by ionnsaigh
Aye I suppose your right enough - disgust rather than guilt - propels change - however the end result is the same.
or is it?. If your disgusted with something - you would naturally turn away. You can shut your eyes to the item of disgust. On the other hand guilt would manifest itself - if you where aware of the damaging consequences of your actions. A disgusted non smoker - has little in the way of understanding - the smoker - Disgust may be a primal instinctive reaction - however one must make the leap from basic to secondary consideration. A baby who sticks it's finger in the fire - will learn through the physical process - it will make the jump between actions - and more importantly - understanding the consequences of these actions.
The future of our race - no human will need - or desire to eat flesh - nor egg or fish. When humans stop eating the milk of cows - when we live for to two hundred years. We will look back - perhaps with a distant smile - to a cro - magnum grandmother -on the first few steps of the evolutionary ladder. Right better take my medicine now - before they cart me away. :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:06 am
by bill
EMDEE wrote:I am of an age that I can remember when chicken was for special occasions (in Campbeltown anyway), and can confirm that I have never recently tasted chicken like the one that we used to get every Christmas from a local farm with all its feathers on and its feet tied together and its head swinging. A lot more work, but a real free range chicken,not what we buy in the supermarkets now. The texture and flavour were far superior.

Or is this just nostalgia?


No it's not just nostalgia Emdee.You are quite right,chicken is tasteless nowadays compared to what it was.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:19 pm
by jfine
We dont buy chicken like we used to, Tyson for one. Not much taste and somethings just wrong with it, cant put my finger on it. When I was in China, I had some of best chicken ever tasted.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:49 pm
by bill
jfine wrote:We dont buy chicken like we used to, Tyson for one. Not much taste and somethings just wrong with it, cant put my finger on it. When I was in China, I had some of best chicken ever tasted.


jfine,Are you positive it was chicken :wink: :roll: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:03 pm
by ionnsaigh
jfine wrote:We dont buy chicken like we used to, Tyson for one. Not much taste and somethings just wrong with it, cant put my finger on it. When I was in China, I had some of best chicken ever tasted.

It's not finger lickin chicken then :D

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:16 pm
by Sweltered
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:27 pm
by Bobbie En Tejas
I was curious about this thread, the taste of chicken between "then" and "now", the possibilities being the way they are grown quickly, no room, fed different, hormones, antibiotics, etc etc etc...

So I decided to ask a friend who lives in a village in Thailand if the chicken tastes different there. He said it doesn't, but that beef definitely does.

ionnsaigh wrote:The future of our race - no human will need - or desire to eat flesh - nor egg or fish. When humans stop eating the milk of cows - when we live for to two hundred years. We will look back - perhaps with a distant smile - to a cro - magnum grandmother -on the first few steps of the evolutionary ladder. Right better take my medicine now - before they cart me away. :shock:


Ionns, I would be worried about living in a world with nothing but unnatural food to eat. Nothing they have ever made has been equal, much less superior to, anything that is natural that I can think of. Just like bread, where they take out the essential nutrients, but put synthetic nutrients back and call it enriched.. it is inferior. Margarine, inferior and unhealthy.. fake sugar, inferior and unhealthy.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:54 am
by general jack o'niell
do what i do, ditch the egg and have an extra square sliced, tho ill sdmit i hsd two today, eggs that is, i'm hung-ary now 2.50 am, a bow lof homemade soup isin order i think