Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:47 pm
by Bobbie En Tejas
Interesting to see the rankings of the global press for 2008.
http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/fop ... Tables.pdf
Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:07 am
by ionnsaigh
Bobbie, I can't seem to use the link you posted. Any chance of you putting up the list. As I know you must be relaxed and refreshed after your holiday. There is even a wee Glesga lassie over in Washington - hope she keeps her mouth shut .

Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:47 pm
by Bobbie En Tejas
Looks like that didn't give the whole URL
Go to
http://www.freedomhouse.org on the left is a link for
Freedom of the Press. Click that and then
Release Materials. Then go down to the link that says
Tables.
Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:35 pm
by ionnsaigh
Freedomhouse, mmm - What makes them think - that the fight for Democracy - allows them - to interfere in sovereign states.
CIA
Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:17 am
by Bobbie En Tejas
Sorry.. I have no clue what your point is.
Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:40 am
by ionnsaigh
Bobbie, freedomhouse as far as I'm aware - was set up to combat Fascism and Communism. Amongst it's many claims - it purports to be the voice for democracy and freedom. The board of trustees share a common view that - American leadership in international affairs - is essential to the cause of human rights and democracy.
This I find particularly troublesome. In a way it is - imperialistic jargon used by an imperialistic power. It claims leadership under a guise of fighting for the twin benefits - of freedom and democracy. It has - as a side dish - the proactive belief in the globalisation - by the open market economy.
On the one hand - it appears to champion human rights - on the other - it dictates human rights.
Lets say that North Korea - adopted an identical philosophy regarding leadership - some would go one way - and some the other.
However both would be wrong - in claiming leadership - in the fight for human rights. They both negate - the equal rights of every human being on the planet - by the mere addition of leadership.
Thanks America - I can fight for my own rights - without the hindrance of some capitalist upstart - claiming leadership over my rights.
Isn't it slightly ironic this organisation - was set up as a result of Fascism. A fascism given power - through democratic election.
The question begs - democratic systems can prove to be - both positive and negative. Yet this organisation currently funded by massive amounts - by the American government - actively supports the one sided view - that Democracy somehow equates Freedom. When in the case of Nazi Germany it did not.
Who owns the American press ?. A few families - and a few global media organisations. These few are the only ones - who enjoy the freedom to obscure - and bastardise journalistic ethics - particularly objectivity.
The tables of - who has and who has not - press freedom - and those caught in-between - are interesting however. Generally speaking they show an equal three way split. Which suggests that the powers that be - still have a considerable battle for complete control of the press. Long may that continue - at least for my freedoms sake.
Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:55 pm
by Sheik Yir Erse
Ionns - I sometimes wish I lived in North Korea, where their "internet pash detector" would filter out most of your posts

Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:01 am
by Mary G
Sheik - that
did make me laugh out loud ... not least because I did my own self-censorship and didn't read the bulk of ionnsaigh's post. Well done

Re: Freedom of the Press

Posted:
Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:05 am
by ionnsaigh
Sheik, this is my son's computer, I'm using at the moment - I took it for granted that he had his pash detector on.
Obviously he hadn't.
Good stuff though.
