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The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:14 pm
by ionnsaigh
It seems that I've been accused of using religious profanities, thereby upsetting some people. As some people are more easily upset than others - and some not at all - then perhaps it would be better for the former to refrain from reading the following.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Measure that against Orange *****

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:40 pm
by A Horse called Juan Face
Some book that. My commendations to the author.

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:50 pm
by £3.73
There's a passage I have memorised ...

'The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.'

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:09 pm
by A Horse called Juan Face
Ok Julius

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:30 pm
by bill
Shouldn't this have been put in the Forum on Films, Music, TV, Books etc... What are you reading just now?thread ? :@

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:10 pm
by ionnsaigh
bill wrote:Shouldn't this have been put in the Forum on Films, Music, TV, Books etc... What are you reading just now?thread ? :@


Maybe bill, however this would reduce the huge impact that these particular books, have had on all our lives - to the same level as Coronation Street or The Lord of the Rings. My contention is that if you compare my banned list, with the horrors of the holy book - in terms of religious profanity - then I'm happy to say that the Bible wins hands down. Yet so called believers, scream for their pound of flesh - when they think their beliefs are under attack - they cry profanity. Take a good long look at the graphic descriptions in the bible, of Child Slaying - Slavery - War - Vengeance - Hell, and an overt and unhealthy interest in female virginity. By the same said measure then - the Bible itself causes offense to some.

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:25 pm
by bill
ionnsaigh wrote:My contention is that if you compare my banned list,


Fraid I was on holiday and missed that :(

ionnsaigh wrote:
Take a good long look at the graphic descriptions in the bible,


Have to admit that I have not read The Bible from start to finish,so cannot comment.

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:58 pm
by Govangirl
ionnsaigh wrote:and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man,


Ionns, just as well they didnae go to Govan - they'd still be searching! :wink:

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:39 pm
by blueboyno1
The bible is just one big story book and a lot gets lost in translation through the ages ,if you were to believe everything it tells you ,then you would believe everythig thats printed in the Sunday Sport .

Take this for example
Geneses -In the beginning there were Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve had two sons Caine and Abel ,Caine slew Abel then went to a far off land and got himself a wife .??????? (Where did the wife come from) :@

Answers on a postcard please. :)

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:57 pm
by ionnsaigh
It's amazing how quickly threads can descend into confusion and chaos - he said this - no I didn't etc etc even after a few days.
Its interesting to note that the first book of the New Testament, was written Eighty years after the death of the last apostle.
Yet many people believe unquestionably word for word, contradiction after contradiction as being in some way true. How strange when one considers the Chinese whispers tendency in humans. :lol:

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:21 pm
by Bobbie En Tejas
I think it is amazing how historically accurate the book is, especially considering all the years and all the hands it went through.

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:31 pm
by Rabmacd
A Horse called Juan Face wrote:Ok Julius


it's Jules, big fla, Jules Winnfield.

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:20 pm
by A Horse called Juan Face
Aye, but I was trying to confuse £3.001 by referring to his previous Roman leanings. Not really, I just got it wrong.

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:51 pm
by ionnsaigh
Bobbie En Tejas wrote:I think it is amazing how historically accurate the book is, especially considering all the years and all the hands it went through.


How old is planet Earth then :roll:

Re: The Bible

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:23 am
by Bobbie En Tejas
good grief, ionns. Is that the best you can do? I don't think there is a person on earth who knows that..

As far as archeologically, the more they find, the more it coincides with the historical record.