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Ronnie Biggs poll - let him out?

Posted:
Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:26 pm
by Tom B
Was it right to let him out?
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:37 pm
by Govangirl
Definitely not. He only served a fraction of his time seeing he managed to escape. He didn't show the driver any compassion so why should he receive any now?
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:52 am
by EMDEE
He is not an obvious threat to anyone nor is there any apparent risk of him reoffending but he has arguably had a better life than many other people who have lived in this country all their lives and chosen to be law-abiding, and gave himself up when it was transparently obvious he required the services of the NHS, to which he chose to be a non-contributor for most of his life. Keeping him in custody for the probably brief remainder of his days would actually look as much like revenge for his making a fool of this country for almost 46 years as it would look like an attempt to achieve anything by way of remorse from him. He is by all accounts an extremely arrogant individual who has demonstrated no remorse up till now, but then so are thousands of other ex-prisoners who have served their sentences and been released. The obvious difference being that he didn't serve his sentence and lived the high life in South America using his ill-gotten gains. If he had served his sentence he would have been out years ago and nobody would even remember him. He said in an interview that he didn't regret the Great Train Robbery because it got him a place in history. Is that something to be proud of? Maybe in a hundred years time he'll be remembered as "bit of a rogue", and there are probably some who see him this way already.
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:00 am
by maxmix
No one actually died at the robbery way back BTW...
I know he showed no remorse etc, but just think about the amount of Murderers, Rapists, Paedo's etc that are all free after so many years, showing no remorse either or re offending....
I dont think he has long to go anyway, but thats it now, he's out....
What do you all reckon ?
maxmix
Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:29 am
by ionnsaigh
Good luck Ronnie.

Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:40 am
by Martin
Seconded.
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:54 am
by mrn
maxmix wrote:No one actually died at the robbery way back BTW...
Okay, that is fine. Lets allow robbers to do as they wish, beat people senseless but as long as they don't kill someone they are okay?
How would you feel towards these people if it was your son or father who was attacked?
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:55 am
by mrn
ionnsaigh wrote:Good luck Ronnie.

Martin wrote:Seconded.
What a pair of clowns! How would you feel if Jack Mills was your son, would you be so ignorant and arrogant? Then again ionnsaigh, for you, anything is possible!!
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:22 am
by History
Tom B wrote:Was it right to let him out?
No!
maxmix wrote:No one actually died at the robbery way back BTW...maxmix
Jack Mills, never fully recovered from his injuries, and never returned to work.
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:21 am
by bill
mrn wrote:What a pair of clowns! How would you feel if Jack Mills was your son, would you be so ignorant and arrogant? Then again ionnsaigh, for you, anything is possible!!
In total agreement mrn,too many people open their gobs before they put their brain in gear,always assuming they have a brain to begin with.
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:29 am
by bill
maxmix wrote:No one actually died at the robbery way back BTW...
maxmix
So if a mugger attacks you and traumatises you so bad that you cannot face going outdoors on you own ever again,as long as he did not kill you,in your opinion that is ok ?
Re: Ronnie Biggs poll - let him out?

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:39 pm
by EMDEE
His half-Brazilian son would have been better to keep his face off our TV screens. Obviously he cannot remember the events of 1963, but appears to have inherited his father's arrogance. What he appears to conveniently overlook is that he himself is one of the reasons why Biggs managed to escape British justice for so long. Of course, you can't blame the son for the sins of the father, but a bit of family humility would not go amiss. The impression he gives is that he seems to be of the opinion that there is an unjustified conspiracy against his father, and does not seem to be aware of the degree of revulsion that is felt by many people in this country towards his father's activities over the last few decades.
Re: Ronnie Biggs poll - let him out?

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:17 pm
by maxmix
lol
And it's OK to release Rapists, Murderers and Sex Offenders (Who admit they will re offend) ! Maybe the law is OK after all !
Hmmmmm
maxmix
Re: Ronnie Biggs

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:57 pm
by bakbjerg
EMDEE wrote:He is not an obvious threat to anyone nor is there any apparent risk of him reoffending but he has arguably had a better life than many other people who have lived in this country all their lives and chosen to be law-abiding, and gave himself up when it was transparently obvious he required the services of the NHS, to which he chose to be a non-contributor for most of his life. Keeping him in custody for the probably brief remainder of his days would actually look as much like revenge for his making a fool of this country for almost 46 years as it would look like an attempt to achieve anything by way of remorse from him. He is by all accounts an extremely arrogant individual who has demonstrated no remorse up till now, but then so are thousands of other ex-prisoners who have served their sentences and been released. The obvious difference being that he didn't serve his sentence and lived the high life in South America using his ill-gotten gains. If he had served his sentence he would have been out years ago and nobody would even remember him. He said in an interview that he didn't regret the Great Train Robbery because it got him a place in history. Is that something to be proud of? Maybe in a hundred years time he'll be remembered as "bit of a rogue", and there are probably some who see him this way already.
Well said EMDEE
Media's make the wrong kind of people heroes by giving them that much attention, and thereby setting up the wrong examples for youngsters. If you want fame, do something infamous. What's wrong with the firemen putting their life at risk for others every day ?
Re: Ronnie Biggs poll - let him out?

Posted:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:59 pm
by EMDEE
maxmix wrote:lol
And it's OK to release Rapists, Murderers and Sex Offenders (Who admit they will re offend) ! Maybe the law is OK after all !
Hmmmmm
maxmix
I don't think anybody has said or implied that is OK.
Maybe I'm wrong, but was Biggs not sentenced to 28 years and has barely served 10 years? Presumably the rapists, murderers and sex offenders to whom you refer have done their time and subsequently been released. The criminal justice system is far from ideal, but if you do your time you are released. That is how it works. Biggs chose to opt out of that arrangement and do his own thing and as a result is presently less than halfway through his original sentence. The fact that there are potentially dangerous ex-convicts walking the streets is a separate issue.