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Conservative MP, Sir Nicholas Winterton was on the radio today moaning at how he was "infuriated" that MPs might no longer be able to claim for first-class train travel and complaining about the "totally different type of people" in standard class.
This is a man who was caught stealing £20,000 a year on a flat he'd already paid the mortgage for and complaining about some of his privileges being threatened while others suffer real hardship seems to me to be a case where there is no understanding of the real world.
I know many people who would very much welcome the chance to travel first class but either because of the luxury or the necessity of it, not because of some assumed entitlement. They certainly would not expect the taxpayer to cough up for it.

Still, this sense of superiority has always been a Tory trait and no matter how they try to rebrand themselves, isn’t it what Cameron is really like underneath?

"Lord man, our gentry care as little,
For delvers, ditchers an' sic cattle,
They gang as saucy by poor fock,
As I wad by a stinkan brock."

Robert Burns The Twa Dogs

Has anything changed in 200+ years?

Govangirl wrote:
isn’t it what Cameron is really like underneath?

NO...this is what Cameron is like underneath.....hopefully.

Love her or loathe her, Cameron's not even in the same league as Maggie.

I have met Winterton.He is a total arse.He should be paid the standard fare and pay extra for up-grade.

EMDEE wrote:Love her or loathe her, Cameron's not even in the same league as Maggie.

I have to say I totally agree!

Govangirl wrote:

EMDEE wrote:Love her or loathe her, Cameron's not even in the same league as Maggie.

I have to say I totally agree!

I, along with 5 million other people (I suspect) DETESTED Margaret Thatcher.
However, even in hindsight, she still has my begrudging respect ... a worthy adversary as they say.

David Cameron is a nobody, a salesman, in fact he's a communist (look it up).
It matters not a jot if you vote for him or anyone else. Because really, you don't get to vote for anyone who decides anything, and that includes think tanks and all the rest of it.
You get to vote for the salesman.

£3.73 wrote:I, along with 5 million other people (I suspect) DETESTED Margaret Thatcher.
However, even in hindsight, she still has my begrudging respect ... a worthy adversary as they say.

Deja vu, I have to say I totally agree. In 1979 the Tories won with 13.7 million votes and 8 years later Thatcher was back in for the 3rd time with 13.8 million. By 2005, they had 8.8 million.
Blair won in 1997 with 13.5 million but by 2005 he won with 9.5 million.

Where have all these Tory and Labour votes gone, one has to ask? Answer: The other big party out there called 'None of the Above' seeing as most people 1. can't find a party which represents their views, and 2. don’t think it would make much difference who won the election. Someone on the telly the other night commented that you couldn't separate the two main parties with an anorexic cigarette paper - how true!
We are still in the age of all spin and no substance. Pass me the Prozac!