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Taddy Loch

Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:19 pm
by spangles
Clickable link


Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:34 pm
by Sheik Yir Erse
Spangles - do you have an idea what year this was?

Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:05 pm
by spangles
No Castle park so could be any time pre 1920. Maybe even before WW1? The road on the right leading upwards would be the road to the rifle range which as you can see goes right through the Machrihanish railway tracks.
If you go into Historic Kintyre you can clearly see where the train headed for the Coal Ree past the Highland church and into Argyll Street where the coal was offloaded to be taken down to the boats in carts. Nothing to say the picture doesn't go as far back as the early 1900's. It looks like railway sheds on the right among the trees?.
S

Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:11 pm
by visitkintyre.info
Beat me to it Spangles but I knew I had a photo of taddy loch somewhere and it is on the Down Memory Lane site
http://www.visitkintyre.info/dml/
Same one but in black and white
Very, very interesting photo - would like to see a photo from the same perspective. Then and now - now there is another idea!


Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:26 pm
by Rabmacd
Spangles,
isn't Taddy Loch up behind the Grammar School. That loch looks like its somewhere that Ralson Road now is--then again, it's Friday night. I might be looking at the photo upside doon

Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:35 pm
by mrn
Rabmacd wrote:Spangles,
isn't Taddy Loch up behind the Grammar School. That loch looks like its somewhere that Ralson Road now is--then again, it's Friday night. I might be looking at the photo upside doon
Spangles is correct. It is taddy loch. The road to the right is Ralston Road and where the trees are is the car park at the bottom of the school beside Kintyre Park. The Grammar School is a good few hundred yards to the right.

Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:36 pm
by spangles
Hi Rab Taddy loch was behind where the cruden type houses start on the left on Ralson Road. Just up past the junction with Crosshill. When I went about it the water was full of rushes.
Away and have another wee tipple and look at it in the morning. :
S

Posted:
Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:11 pm
by Rabmacd
Seriously noo, and pardon my ignorance,
but is there not a wee loch BEHIND the Grammar School called Taddy Loch.
MRN, I know the layout of the photo, but the "Taddy Loch" that I am thinking about was behind the grammar, somewhere round about the back of Hutcheon Court???
I seem to remember getting taddies from there.

Posted:
Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:22 am
by Ship called Dignity
Rabmacd wrote:Seriously noo, and pardon my ignorance,
but is there not a wee loch BEHIND the Grammar School called Taddy Loch.
MRN, I know the layout of the photo, but the "Taddy Loch" that I am thinking about was behind the grammar, somewhere round about the back of Hutcheon Court???
I seem to remember getting taddies from there.
Is this where you are on about Rab? To the right? Mair like a puddle.


Posted:
Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:43 am
by Rabmacd
The very one Davie, though the splendour doesn't show up on Google EARTH. Google Lochs is what you should be looking for
That Taddy thing wasn't much more than a puddle either then. I can remember running right through it in my old Tomkinson's Schooldays Ripping Yarns, cross country running days


Posted:
Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:55 am
by EMDEE
Rabmacd wrote:Spangles,
isn't Taddy Loch up behind the Grammar School. That loch looks like its somewhere that Ralson Road now is--then again, it's Friday night. I might be looking at the photo upside doon
Petewick mentioned this loch on the "I remember when" thread. Personally I had never heard of any other body of water being called Taddy Loch other than the one behind Ralston Road, although that area behind Limecraigs was not an area I frequented in my youth. I was more Albyn/Davaar/Calton/Hillside. I would agree with Rabmacd that in its latter days the one behind Ralston Rd had become no more than a puddle, as I watched it getting smaller year by year.
The reason I am aware of Taddy Loch is that my granny lived in Crosshll Avenue, and I spent a lot of time in that part of the town. At the time when I used to frequent it, it was just a vestige of its former size, as I can see from the photos. We got plenty of taddies there nevertheless. I suppose you can get taddies anywhere. We get them in the pond in our garden, and it has only been there for five years.
Back to the photo. I see that there is a road running off Ralston Road. Is this the present Meadows Avenue? The reason I ask this is because in the photo it looks to be very near to the old Waterhouse in the garden of 8 Crosshill Avenue.

Posted:
Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:14 am
by Rabmacd
Emdee,
that road looks to be exactly where Meadows Avenue is now.

Posted:
Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:41 am
by spangles
EMDEE wrote:Back to the photo. I see that there is a road running off Ralston Road.
Ralston Road didn't exist then Emdee, I believe that is the Machrihanish railway line running alog the middle of the picture. If you look to the right in the trees you can see the coal ree where they carted the coal down to the peir from Argyll Street. Is that carriages sitting on the siding?
I have "borrowed" this link from the "Historic Kintyre" site to show the track running through the rifle range road before it started to climb to Tomaig. The above photo is more to the left of that map.
http://www.campbeltownloch.com/photogal ... hoto_id=67Ralston Road as we know it stopped at the old Grammar school in that picture. The road you see running up on the right of the picture is up to the rifle range. That road would be done away with when the scheme was built and a new road put in a good number of metres to the East to run on the other side of the cottage which now makes up part of Meadowpark sheltered housing complex.
EMDEE wrote:The reason I ask this is because in the photo it looks to be very near to the old Waterhouse in the garden of 8 Crosshill Avenue.
Emdee the water house was in the garden of number 9 across the road from number 8. The tenant that is in there now asked for it to be moved approx. 3 years ago.
S

Posted:
Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:51 am
by Rabmacd
There also looks to be quite a number of boats sitting in Campbeltown Loch.

Posted:
Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:34 pm
by EMDEE
Been doing a bit of research on the history of Taddy Loch, and find that there is reference to it in “The Whisky Distilleries of Campbeltown” by David Stirk. (2005)
According to the book, what we knew as “Taddy Loch” was a holding reservoir which was completed in 1820, and was built by John Campbell, the seventh Duke of Argyll, to help to develop the whisky industry in the town, as he saw the availability of process water for distilling to be a problem to the industry.
It seems that the Duke foresaw that legislation that was finally passed in 1823 would lead to an upsurge of whisky distilling in the town, and saw a business opportunity. As it turned out, this was indeed the case, although the industry was almost wiped out in later years.
As a point of interest, the inside front and back covers of the book are the north and south parts of an old 19th Century map of the town. On this map, the road that we see in the above photo, that we now know as Ralston Road, ending abruptly where the gate of the playing fields now is, is named as “Rope Walk”. Where did this name come from? Any fishing connection?