Public Meeting

[Sweltered]

Its all in the maths, moslem people are having more children. White european birth rate is falling. Its not racism, it's maths.

Erm.. many white Europeans are also Muslims.

Islam is a faith not a race.

My appologies, of course you are correct, wrong choice of words

[dedalus]

I suppose I am saying if you are not paying for democracy then you should not be getting it. I honestly believe a lot of the so called "freedoms" we enjoy are already in jeapordy because too many people are ( in my language ) taking the p!ss. Mark my words this model of government will not see another 20 years.

Im away to read up on the romans, we have along way to go before we can claim as much success as them. Anyway Muslims dont like democracy so why should they worry. Interesting BTW, there is not a democracy within 1000 miles of the equator.

[general jack o'niell]

[Bobbie En Tejas]

and the popes a catholic, think you missed the point, that means both of you, birthrate in western europe may be falling but what about elsewhere, regardless of religion?

try out atheism, no guilt, no enemies, all the condoms you want for those that choose, medical assistance when needed, no waiting for divine intervention, sundays off and you don't have to worry about judgement day

if you can live with the knowledge that theres nothing out there, that when you die, your dead and nothing follows, if you feel no need to call on a higher power in your darkest moments

then sign right up

atheists are the new black

An atheist at his funeral: All dressed up and nowhere to go.

[general jack o'niell]

[Bobbie En Tejas]

And not original.. well, it was at one time.... but funny nonetheless.

[John S]

I suppose I am saying if you are not paying for democracy then you should not be getting it. I honestly believe a lot of the so called "freedoms" we enjoy are already in jeapordy because too many people are ( in my language ) taking the p!ss. Mark my words this model of government will not see another 20 years.

I'm away to read up on the romans, we have along way to go before we can claim as much success as them. Anyway Muslims dont like democracy so why should they worry. Interesting BTW, there is not a democracy within 1000 miles of the equator.

Are you prepared to pay for the alternatives? I don't expect any of them are cheap. I agree with you about the model of government but I think its unlikely to be because a few successful tight wads get uppity about their tax bills. et tu brute!

[Sweltered]

Its all in the maths, moslem people are having more children. White european birth rate is falling. Its not racism, it's maths.

Erm.. many white Europeans are also Muslims.

Islam is a faith not a race.

I've just re read what I wrote, I'm not wrong. The white European birth rate is falling, the moslem birth rate in Europe is rising. So the white moslem birth rate is contributing to the moslem increase, as well as being part of the decrease in White European birthrate. Which suggests that the birthrate is decreasing by more than was reported.

I never suggested Islam was a race.

too quick to appologise.

Appology retracted.

[Beachcomber]

Its all in the maths, moslem people are having more children. White european birth rate is falling. Its not racism, it's maths.

Erm.. many white Europeans are also Muslims.

Islam is a faith not a race.

I've just re read what I wrote, I'm not wrong. The white European birth rate is falling, the moslem birth rate in Europe is rising. So the white moslem birth rate is contributing to the moslem increase, as well as being part of the decrease in White European birthrate. Which suggests that the birthrate is decreasing by more than was reported.

I never suggested Islam was a race.

too quick to appologise.

Appology retracted.

No worries. I guess it's like one of those Venn diagrams we did oh so many years ago in school, where the circles overlap. You weren't really comparing like with like though, hence the possible confusion over race/religion.

[Sweltered]

Its all in the maths, moslem people are having more children. White european birth rate is falling. Its not racism, it's maths.

Erm.. many white Europeans are also Muslims.

Islam is a faith not a race.

I've just re read what I wrote, I'm not wrong. The white European birth rate is falling, the moslem birth rate in Europe is rising. So the white moslem birth rate is contributing to the moslem increase, as well as being part of the decrease in White European birthrate. Which suggests that the birthrate is decreasing by more than was reported.

I never suggested Islam was a race.

too quick to appologise.

Appology retracted.

No worries. I guess it's like one of those Venn diagrams we did oh so many years ago in school, where the circles overlap. You weren't really comparing like with like though, hence the possible confusion over race/religion.

I was comparing birth rates, but I take your point in that White Europeans will always be white europeans, but children born into a Muslim family can change their beliefs.

[Sweltered]

Nobody in their right mind would willing want to move to the USA-

Really!!

[eddie mitchell]

Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war and until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation, until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, there is war. And until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality, will remain but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, but never attained... now everywhere is war.

[Hadrians hiring!]

Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war and until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation, until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, there is war. And until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality, will remain but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, but never attained... now everywhere is war.

Eddie,

that really is the most trite piece o' sh$t I have heard in a lomg time.


1/ Human rights mean nothing (Iraq now worse torture under the ham shanks than Saddam, heres a thought - democracy to Iraq - Saddam might get back in power, as far as I remember being a felon aint no bar on holding office in the States, or here)
2/ Your country at the mo means nothing (see current Europe pish at the Ryder Cup)
3/ Of course at any 1 time 1 race is superior to another - thats the human nature and education that got us to the point of oblivion in the first place.
4/ Democracy does not work - America is a 2 party duopoly - not really any different to 1 party states and anyway the term ''dictator'' used to be thought of in a nice way until ''Uncle Joe'' + Adolf. The fact that we had to endure Tory rule during the 80's when the English sods had hardly a vote up here proves that even though you have a vote it does not mean a lot.

I remember a programme about 10 years ago that talked about all the Worlds great civilizations, (10 I believe from pre-history onwards) from Toltecs to Aztecs to the Greeks to Rome to the Austria-Hungary to GB to USSR.

They have all fallen!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is only a matter of time till USA does too. History always repeats.

I am not religeous but I suppose I would side with Christianity due to my upbringing, when the sh*t flies ( that would not make me particularly proud) but I would put the blame for 50% of the future violence on the weak willed liberals who say 1people 1life 1 voice crap!!!!!!!!!
Only now when the Euoropean Union is getting opened right up does voters go ''no more immigrants''

WHY??????????????

I have known a lot of pals who were Scottish Asian. Scottish Irish, Scottish Polish Etc and the most important thing too them was to be Scottish and to live life as best as they could - fair play to them.


I know this next bit will be jumped upon by sword-swallowers everywhere as being Anti-Semeitic but if the shoe fits -------- Wear it!

All the Scottish Jews, Scottish Anglo's and Scottish Yanks were Scottish second

BIG DIFFERENCE!


Rant over ----------- for now (it is 2.42AM)


Arguments for another World War or Spanish Flu to sort out increasing population to follow at another time.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

ps Eddie where did you copy that fae????????????

[eddie mitchell]

capitalism will go to the moon for wealth thus the stat of humanity ?

[Sweltered]

was that Yanks in Scotland or all the wannabe Scots over here. Do you expect me to turn my back on my heritage and think of my self as American?

Seems to be a contradiction.

You should see the looks I get when I ask why the leaders (ex or otherwise) of a terrorist organisation are invited to the Whitehouse for St Patricks day.

The Scottish parliament mey be a 3 horse race, but for what? It has no real power, whatever power it has, is given by Westminster.

And remember how you feel if someone asks you if you're English, when you tar all Americans with the same brush. This smacks of the "hope they go on their arse" mentality mentioned elsewhere. My main problem with this is the lies and deception. They went after saddam , for the oil. Britain, with Scots troops and the head marched into half the countries in the world, did you think they handed out sweeties?

He who is without sin cast the first stone......People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Lots of stones, appropriate, since its all bollox.