Why don't you post? Is it because of insults? Have your say.

[Sweltered]

you really don't have a sense of humour do you. Why do you feel the need to insult me? Seems I'm not allowed to post anything on here.

I WAS just making an observation, and felt the need to explain that I was NOT having a go at you, but your obvious expertise on forums has gotten the better of me.

You can ban me if you like Malky,

but Smokynuk, you can frick off.

[Malky]

I can GUARANTEE you Malky that if this forum didnt have the bad rep that it has,

Hmmm, I can honestly say that you are the first person to say that directly to me. I have heard third hand accounts of how GJ, Sweltered etc stop people posting with their insults, etc but I have never had a direct complaint before. Can't speak for Davie though.

I might separate posts on this and let people have their say.

Malky

[spangles]

How about a poll on whether there is any substance to smokynuk's allegations. Something along the lines of why don't you post? is because of apathy or certain members who dominate the forum or why bother because the topic will drift into shit before it is properly discussed.??

Spangles

[smokynuk]

i see you've decided to single me out and therefor implying that i am a forum bully. since another of you complaints is the tendency for going off topic, i take it this is a sine die offence on any forum you've moderated?

First off, you brought yourself into this so i never singled anyone out - was just replying to your comments as i'd previously replied to Campbell a. But if you want to feel special and singled out then whatever floats your boat man

what i won't ignore is the slight on the people who run this forum, they do a great job

Again you misunderstand me. I never once slighted the actual people running this forum, just stated an observation that the likes of you and your posse have taken over - i mean just look at your "family" running to your defence like kids on a playground. Its quite amusing actually when youve not witnessed it before

i am truely sorry if you find exchange with persons who might have an opposing view distasteful

I have nothing against people with differing views, i just find it disgusting they have to use insults.

we can't all be the same, otherwise this would be the tory party, i should just say here that this is the longest post i've ever done without making a joke about myself, if you bothered to read them you'd see that the only people i insult are the ones i'm in the habit of talking to outwith the forum, people i've known for years, i never treat strangers the same, how could i? i've no idea who they are, so how can i make personal attacks against a screen name? i defy you to say different, i've no need to make fun of strangers, theres plenty well kent faces that are more deserving and might i say appreciative of a bit of harmless banter, i take as good as i give, we might not have a life but at least we have a sense of humour or the ridiculous, free the smartarse four, they deserve your pity not your scorn

I have to admit though you are a bit more eloquent in your answer than the other members of your gang, but my point stands. Harmless banter to you and the other regular postsers on here, may seem just that because you are used to it. But if you put yourself in the position of someone who is posting here for the first time, it can and does come across as something more than harmless banter. Not only are they insulted but it puts them off from posting again.

Maybe im wrong, maybe you dont have any malice in you. All im asking is for some consideration for new posters on here. Some people arent as thick skinned as others.

[smokynuk]

you really don't have a sense of humour do you. Why do you feel the need to insult me? Seems I'm not allowed to post anything on here.

I WAS just making an observation, and felt the need to explain that I was NOT having a go at you, but your obvious expertise on forums has gotten the better of me.

You can ban me if you like Malky,

but Smokynuk, you can frick off.

See its not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot is it? can dish it out but cant take it? classic signs of a bully.

I havent insulted you anymore than you have insulted others in the past. So to any moderator on here thinking of banning me you should look at the past actions of said individuals first.

[general jack o'niell]

welcome, hope you have many a happy little post and big post and medium post which you might think you are due to the following which was written before your post but got cut off from the rest when malky moved this part of t he thread, he has asked me to stick it here, well he asked me to stick it somewhere and since its doom and gloom here and i don't see sun anywhere i can only assume that it is here that he wishes me to stick it

think the topic had kind of run its course, we agreed to disagree, at least i had, i can see the non smokers point and i agreed with it, despite being a smoker and one of the biggest pro smoking lobbiests on here. wish i could stop, but i don't really want to, but i do respect non smokers wishes and adjust accordingly, not much of a sacrifice, the company of the non smoker being more important than the need to smoke at that time.

as for the other thing, i wish these persons who i have personally driven from the forum would make themselves known, my identity is known to all, wether you have personal knowledge of me or not, unlike some who have made personal attacks directed towards me, who choose to remain hidden behind a screen name, yes i may have replied in a retaliatory demeanour towards one or two of those posters but only in defence of myself or more likely another poster, who was less willing to defend themself, i think you'll find that there may be some who i've defended who have stopped or decreased posts. all the posters who i've had disagreements with are still regular posters, some have even gone on to be quite friendly in our more recent exchanges, even to the extent that they have been invited to that little haven we call the stargate. i'm getting a bit sick of the innuendo regarding myself and for want of another name as it appears its just the two of us being used as examples, sweltered. no, i'm not standing up for him, he can do that himself, i just want one name, just one, not going to hold my breath tho, or are these mysterious members not resident in kintyre, i can't remember getting any funny looks from anyone, quite the reverse, i get members coming up to introduce themselves to me, which i thank them for, makes exchanges all the more pleasant if you can put a name to the face or should that be the other way round?

its poor do's as we say to use someone like me as an excuse for not being able to take part in a debate where your point of view is not in the majority, since like davie and malky and a few others my name is known to most members, anything i say can be directly attributed to me, hence the reason i always think before i post, even if it doesn't appear so to the casual observer, believe me i have thought about every word, not always spelt them correctly but hety, whoos purrfactt?

do you think i want someone coming to my door or worse stopping my wife in the street and saying i said something about them? well the first i'm not bothered about, if i've said it i believe it to be so, therefor i can defend it, but the other? i don't need that grief. so it aint gonna happen, ok so it does, but its always been someone retelling a post they found amusing, least it has so far, i'll tell her to take the rest of the week off will i?

i'm not a member to win friends and influence people, tho i have made friends, don't think i've influenced anyone, at least not deliberatly, tho bill's taste in music has got worse, but thats reverse p!shycology on his part, a cup of coffee, a fag and a rant on the forum, life just doesn't get any better!!!!!

[AP]

you should inhale their arse gas ya gonk (Campbell A)

How nice for a visitor from Edinburgh to come to the forum and have that said to them.This may be harmless banter to ur buddies on here but to a stranger this is offensive no matter how u try to sugar coat it.

The childish and rude comments that usually pop up on every topic is what puts people off posting.Every time a serious topic is posted someone has to get a smart off topic post in and then the buddy chit chat starts. END of serious topic.

I have talked to a few of my friends and this is also the reason they don't post.

[general jack o'niell]

theres a puckle oh guests and three hidden viewers, or curtain twitchers all sittin waitin for somebody to say something, you could have put money on it being me, and if you did, congratulations davie owes you a pint.

just the title of this thread, if they have stopped posting, how are they meant to know that we want them to have their say? surely if the y have their say then they haven't stopped posting? or are we waiting for them to post and we all jump out from behind a bush and shout "hae, got you, we were here all the time"

i do get the gist of the topic, just a daft wee notion while they pluck up the courage to come out from behind their facebook page

[smokynuk]

well, comments like that certainly dont help.

Also case in point - words from Spangles "certain members who dominate the forum" example being right here.

[UP THE ROAD]

you should inhale their arse gas ya gonk (Campbell A)

How nice for a visitor from Edinburgh to come to the forum and have that said to them.This may be harmless banter to ur buddies on here but to a stranger this is offensive no matter how u try to sugar coat it.

The childish and rude comments that usually pop up on every topic is what puts people off posting.Every time a serious topic is posted someone has to get a smart off topic post in and then the buddy chit chat starts. END of serious topic.

I have talked to a few of my friends and this is also the reason they don't post.

Thank you AP--I am replying to this and then might never post again. I am so glad other people found it as offensive as I did, and if that is the way people who post get talked to when trying to join in a conversation I am not surprised they don't say who they are. I was born in Campbeltown and have never talked to anyone like that in my life and never intend to- have more respect for myself and others.The topics are wide and varied on here but alas anyone who resorts to 'gutter' comments should be asked to post an apology or take a hike.

[general jack o'niell]

can't say i've had any friends say they've stopped posting, but since i'm accused of being one of the guilty parties that may not surprise you, though i've never used the term you highlighted, in fact i find it deeply offensive, and just the reposting of it has shocked me somewhat, reinforcing the childishness of it, the grammar was wrong and i won't begin to dissect the syntax of the statement, where did this person get their education?

that sort of language is best suited to the sawdust strewn spit stained floors of a gorbals bar (any bar in any disadvantaged district of any city will do, the gorbals is used merely as an illustration)

i think we should all have a big communal hug and be bestestest friends, what with global warming and increased rainfall we could soon be up to our necks in the unfettered stench of our own anal byproducts, then who is to know who's gas we might be inhaling? it could be some common person who doesn't use wet wipes, they could be a curry munching beer swiller, the very thought turns my stomach, first thing tommorrow i am moving to higher ground, maybe one of our visitinig members will let me climb up on their pedestal with them? that sort down there wallowing in their own gas should be neutered at birth

[AP]

can't say i've had any friends say they've stopped posting, but since i'm accused of being one of the guilty parties that may not surprise you, though i've never used the term you highlighted, in fact i find it deeply offensive, and just the reposting of it has shocked me somewhat, reinforcing the childishness of it, the grammar was wrong and i won't begin to dissect the syntax of the statement, where did this person get their education?

that sort of language is best suited to the sawdust strewn spit stained floors of a gorbals bar (any bar in any disadvantaged district of any city will do, the gorbals is used merely as an illustration)

i think we should all have a big communal hug and be bestestest friends, what with global warming and increased rainfall we could soon be up to our necks in the unfettered stench of our own anal byproducts, then who is to know who's gas we might be inhaling? it could be some common person who doesn't use wet wipes, they could be a curry munching beer swiller, the very thought turns my stomach, first thing tommorrow i am moving to higher ground, maybe one of our visitinig members will let me climb up on their pedestal with them? that sort down there wallowing in their own gas should be neutered at birth

This is another one of the reasons people dont post.

The threads are filled with paragraph after paragraph of nonsensical drivel which drowns out the original topics.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

54 posts..

and then there is Uptheroad with 3 comments who is berating the forum.. lol

who was that guy we had here a year or two ago who asked about crime in the area because he wanted to move there, and every post after that was bashing the forum? Can't remember his name. Always interesting and always seems like such a set up.

Smokynuk, have you read the cuba thread? Or any of the threads on communism, religion, the ferry (the issue has gotten a little heated in the past, as i think it would at a town meeting hall... just seems to bring out strong opinions in people) There are quite a few differences of opinion. Personally, i would rather be around people who weren't afraid to have real conversations with real points of view, sometimes polar opposites. Makes it more interesting.

[general jack o'niell]

small point of order, since when was it a crime to be on the forum and post on a topic? read the heading of the topic

i'm sorry that you think that writing in paragraphs is drivel, fair enough t he contents of said paragraphs may contain drivel, but theres usually a point in there somewhere.

personally i find the one word and five word threads drivel, hence i ignore them, its not hard, i just don't read them, i click on the mark all posts as read and don't give them a second thought. when i started writing my last post several members who i had been conversing with were logged in, ok so i type slowly, so a few may have died, a few more emigrated, some might even have gone to bed, i'm not to know this when i start typing am i?

i can see by the names of those now on and complaining that they are not frequent posters, entirely your perogative, but please don't hold spangles up as some beacon of decency, take a straw poll and you'll find there are plenty of frequent posters who have had to suffer his insults, and they are always of a personal nature, never lighthearted, never amusing, always meant to get a reaction, start an arguement and then like his cohorts (if i have a posse he can have cohorts) he slinks off leaving the thread to descend into bickering, trhen has the cheek to accuse others of being responsible.

there was even a thread that was stopped because it discussed who he might be, he was annoying so many at the time, this was stopped by me when it was pointedd out that since he coulds not see the thread he had no right of reply, perfectly reasonable i thought so it was stopped.

it is apparent several of our embra friends do not care for my style of prose, very sorry, you can't please all the people all the time, maybe if you swung by more often you would get a more balanced viewpoint of my posts. you may not know me, therefor are not familiar with my sense of humour, thats ok, the name is morris shaw, still not know me? your loss i assure you, not mine of that i am certain

[general jack o'niell]

hello bobbie, you calm don, at your age you canna be too careful