School: 1958 versus 2008

[Govangirl]

I was going to post this in House of Fun but changed my mind. The following is sad, very sad, but true. Common sense has gone right out the window now.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1958 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1958 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2008 Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADHD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbour's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt. 1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mum has affair with psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1958 - Mark shares aspirin with teacher out on the smoking deck.
2008 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Ahmed fails high school English.
1958 - Ahmed goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2008 - Ahmed's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. Files class action lawsuit against state school system and Ahmed's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Ahmed given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from Bonfire Night, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1958- Ants die.
2008 - Daily Mail contacted, Homeland Security, MI5 called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, MI5 investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during breaktime and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1958 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.


The last one particularly maddens/saddens me!

[Govangirl]

Sorry, I'm talking rubbish. Some of it wouldn't happen in 2008 - like Johnny falling at breaktime and scraping his knee. Johnny isn't allowed to run because he just might be able to run faster than some of the other kids which would hurt their feelings. And we can't have that.

And If he did somehow manage to scrape his knee his parents would sue the school!

Cynical? Me? Don't be daft!

[linda_j]

So very sad but true...... what is the world coming to....

[bill]

Yes you should have put it in the house of fun.

[Govangirl]

Oh dear, Bill. Was it too frivolous? I know it was for fun but honestly, I thought it was so close to what's happening, it could have started a debate about PC.

[EMDEE]

http://www.capc.co.uk/

[Govangirl]

Well, I'm glad someone is taking a stance Emdee. That's why I didn't want it in the Fun thread because it's something that really concerns me. In schools, we now have to file a report for every incident and once something is written down it can escalate beyond any sense of reality. The form has a part that goes: 'Was the incident racially motivated?' That in itself can cause no end of problems. When my daughter was 8 she fell out with her friend who had called her a 'skinny white cow'. My daughter retorted with 'Well, you're a skinny brown cow' and before you knew it, there was huge outrage, I was called up to the school and a report instigated. By this time of course, the girls had made up but you don't have to guess at which one of the girls had a 'racially-motivated incident' logged into her school records!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I fought that farce for nearly a year. Now, I'm not kidding but at some point in my daughter's life in the future that report will come back to bite her on the bum. What really disturbed me was that while I was being 'interviewed' in the Head's office, a child was verbally and physically attacking a support assistant outside the classroom, screaming obscenities and lashing out aggressively. That child got a detention. You couldn't make it up!
There is so much PC cr*p in schools now. I once had a display in my class of 19th century poets and an inspector asked me why there were no black figures included. We received a notice to say that school photographs had to include a racial mix - we don't have any such mix. Children are not allowed to take any risk whatsoever in case they have an 'accident'. If a child in pain, sorrow, despair or confusion comes to me I cannot comfort that child physically and that is soul-destroying. Some kids used to hold my hand when they were reading but that simple act could have me put in prison now.
It's time we took control.

[LANDROVER ROGER]

Where and when did all this pc garbage begin?United States of America?

[A Horse called Juan Face]

Richey James Edwards: When I was young PC meant Police Constable, nowadays I can't seem to tell the difference.

Political Correctness is the death knell of society. We were playing football today and I'm injured so I was staying back (we don't play keepers). A Korean was playing on the left of the other teams attack and after a while of just standing there unmarked he said to me "Is this a racial thing?'. Im pretty sure he was joking, but I said no you have to shout for the ball and matter doesn't pass through matter, meaning that he wasn't making the space for a pass properly for himself, and also when he got the ball he didn't pass himself. I was just a bit shocked that in the group we play in (I'm generally the only British person) anyone could even contemplate that.

I propose that instead of bringing back corporal punishment for children, we just get some big angry man to go around and slap some sense into the parents. I'm big, relatively angry and I'd enjoy the job, but I'm afraid I'd probably get slapped back harder.

[EMDEE]

The trouble with this PC nonsense is that it is self defeating in that in itself it underlines differences (ethnic and otherwise) by recognising different groups and not treating people as individuals. It has reached the stage where if two individuals have an argument, and they happen to be of different ethnic backgrounds, then it is assumed that there must be a racist element. They are not regarded as two individuals having an argument.

Any country that has had a large influx of immigrants is going to have problems with integration. Historically, the UK has absorbed many immigrants over the millennia, including the Celts, who, I believe came originally from South–Eastern Europe. The world population has always been dynamic, and essentially driven by economic forces. We are merely witnesses to ongoing change that has happened for thousands of years. If we keep needlessly trying to protect minorities and criminalising what, for want of a better description, we might regard as the more “indigenous” population, this is only going to serve to postpone integration and alienate communities. It is counter-productive.

I have also heard the word “racist” being misapplied in disputes between individuals from the constituent countries of the UK. This is not racism! The white population of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are of the same race. To be a Scottish patriot doesn’t include hating the English, and vice-versa. Likewise, the East Europeans who have recently migrated to the UK are of the same race. This is not racism; it is just a bad and unwelcome form of Nationalism.

[Govangirl]

No, you can't blame them Roger. It all started a long time ago with Cultural Marxism. 'Political Correctness' originated as something of a joke, literally in a comic strip, but it’s deadly serious and is the great disease of our century.
We are becoming an ideological state. Many years ago, I used to mock and pity countries where they would be afraid of what words they used but it's happening here now. I hate any kind of unwarranted abuse whether it be racial, homophobic or sexist but it has gone too far and there's a kind of terror in people now in case they say the wrong thing. Well, we've seen the effects of it in Russia, in Germany, in Italy, in China, and now it’s coming here. And we don’t recognise it because we call it Political Correctness and laugh it off. That's why I didn't want to put my original post in the House of fun - because everything that we have ever defined as our freedom and our culture is in jeopardy now.

[EMDEE]

That's why I didn't want to put my original post in the House of fun - because everything that we have ever defined as our freedom and our culture is in jeopardy now.

I did think that it's the kind of can of worms that is suitable for Speakers Corner.

[Govangirl]

And I've always been known as a can of worms opener, Emdee!!!!

[A Horse called Juan Face]

Read my post!

[Mo*]

because everything that we have ever defined as our freedom and our culture is in jeopardy now.

Definitely a comment for the house of fun.
Only someone with a poor understanding of the history of this country, or of global politics, could say this with a straight face.
Sounds like Govan Girl was campaigning with that other Daily Mail reading, Tory fantasist, David Davis.