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Re: John Smeaton

Postby ionnsaigh » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:52 pm

BeachloverSteph wrote:I agree with WC1. Maybe it is different here in the United States…but a job would be lost if staff were discussing a patient with someone who was not directly involved in their care. It is called confidentiality. Even if it may not be a law there (I am not knowledgeable of your laws) it should still be followed out of respect for the patient. In my opinion, I think it is just as wrong for a person to repeat the "story" as it is for the staff who told it.


It could also be deemed, a breach of confidentiality - for airport workers to discuss airport users - to the mass media.
Furthermore wither he was a hero or not - he detracts from the real area of concern - at that particular time - two car bombs found in London, the night before - and Glasgow airport attacked the next day - by the same people. What a dreadful lapse in security at Glasgow Airport - who claim their customers safety as paramount - come again. :lol:
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby gizmo » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:49 pm

It could also be deemed, a breach of confidentiality - for airport workers to discuss airport users - to the mass media.


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Re: John Smeaton

Postby Govangirl » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:26 am

Sorry if I upset anyone but I just want to make it clear that I had no information whatsoever about Smeaton's stay in hospital. I was just so incensed about the smear that I contacted my relative that works there and she denied any of it to her knowledge. I personally don't think there was any harm in her saying she found him to be a charmer as I was just trying to play down the claims about his character seeing as I deemed it unfair. I take on what you say, apologies :(
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby blueboyno1 » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:39 am

Dont see you have any need to apologise GG, :? what other people said was well out of order .There is a name for unsubstantiated gossip in a court of law .It is called hearsay .
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby Jock Strap » Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:15 am

ionnsaigh wrote:
BeachloverSteph wrote:I agree with WC1. Maybe it is different here in the United States…but a job would be lost if staff were discussing a patient with someone who was not directly involved in their care. It is called confidentiality. Even if it may not be a law there (I am not knowledgeable of your laws) it should still be followed out of respect for the patient. In my opinion, I think it is just as wrong for a person to repeat the "story" as it is for the staff who told it.


It could also be deemed, a breach of confidentiality - for airport workers to discuss airport users - to the mass media.
Furthermore wither he was a hero or not - he detracts from the real area of concern - at that particular time - two car bombs found in London, the night before - and Glasgow airport attacked the next day - by the same people. What a dreadful lapse in security at Glasgow Airport - who claim their customers safety as paramount - come again. :lol:


ionnsaigh wrote:]It could also be deemed, a breach of confidentiality - for airport workers to discuss airport users - to the mass media.


Should this statement not be in the House of Fun? You have to be joking Ionnsaigh.

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Re: John Smeaton

Postby ionnsaigh » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:25 am

Sorry - I was in the wrong.
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby gizmo » Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:35 pm

Good Lad Wee C.... But dont get in the habit of apologising for everything that gets on peoples wick or you would never get away from your computer.... :lol:
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby ionnsaigh » Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:31 pm

gizmo wrote:Good Lad Wee C.... But dont get in the habit of apologising for everything that gets on peoples wick or you would never get away from your computer.... :lol:

Aye yer right enough - sorry about that. :lol:
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby ionnsaigh » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:18 pm

I have never been happy with the knee-jerk, completely over the top reaction of some, to this thread.
The question posed is simple enough, the question mark hangs over, John Smeaton's actions and statements, as to his involvement in the attack.
I remember cringing in embarrassment, as he used that old negative stereotypical (no mean city) image of my city. One that has had, an adverse effect for generations now. One that even the city fathers - have long since fought to minimise.
What made me angry, was his open invitation , to every would be terrorist in the country,by challenging them. How dare he or anybody for that matter, put lives at risk because of a big mouth, the later being characteristic of a "charmer ". In retrospect it resembled the Bush "come and get us" , remarks.
The thread questioned John Smeatons version of events, alas for the sake of accuracy, one has to try and establish - what type of character is Mr Smeaton. The open nature of such should be treated with the respect, enquiries of such deserve without cries of here we go again ?. Or more worryingly claims of a flaw in the Scottish character that decries hero's. Now here's me thinking that only applied to Robert the Bruce , and the erstwhile Mr Sheridan. Both of whom have question marks hanging over them. How can one be accused of an attempt to smear someones character, when it's the character in question that's up for debate? Believe you me I had it up to my neck in media made hero's - Sheridan was more than enough for me.
Admittedly I have a problem of anyone talking on my behalf, be it Smeaton or anyone else on this planet.
Oh and by the way is he a Glaswegian or a Paisley Buddie? , just wondering.
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:47 pm

Honestly Mick, Im not trying to be a smart arse cos I know your dyslexic, but its really hard to follow what you write when you use a hyphen instead of a comma. I can see exactly what youre saying in this thread but it really is hard to follow when you use hyphens. Sorry man, not trying to be a knob, just saying what I see.
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby ionnsaigh » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:32 pm

You see I don't know if that is any better.
Cheers mate no hard feelings, I need a good English teacher. Do you happen to know any?
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby bill » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:18 pm

ionnsaigh wrote:Sorry - I was in the wrong.
:shock: :shock: :shock:


Bloody hell,I nearly missed that.9.25 Christmas morning when not another soul would be watching. :)
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby Govangirl » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:41 pm

A Horse called Juan Face wrote:Honestly Mick, Im not trying to be a smart arse cos I know your dyslexic, but its really hard to follow what you write when you use a hyphen instead of a comma. I can see exactly what youre saying in this thread but it really is hard to follow when you use hyphens. Sorry man, not trying to be a knob, just saying what I see.


Horse, he lost me when he put Robert the Bruce and Tommy Sheridan in the same sentence. :mrgreen:
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Re: John Smeaton

Postby bill » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:17 pm

Forget about your Robert Bruce
and all the men he’s beaten.
The hero of the Scottish now
is a man called big John Smeaton

Big John, Big John
Big John Smeaton

The terrorists they came
to strike fear in our land,
but a big man stood before them,
a suitcase in each hand.

The flaming jeep sped onwards,
but John was in no doubt -
he took a last puff on his fag
and stamped the fcuker out.

He saw the polis getting punched.
He saw it as his duty.
The mighty man called Smeaton cried,
“I’m gonnae set aboot ye.”

He took them out in seconds -
you should have seen thier faces.
Big John smiled, his work being done,
went back to moving cases

In the darkest depths of Kabul
they know that they are beaten.
And they won’t try it with us again,
all thanks to big John Smeaton

He's harder than a punk with a mohican
He's harder than Batman when he was played by Michael Keaton

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Re: John Smeaton

Postby blueboyno1 » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:59 pm

:D :D :D
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