Scotland - how you see it

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Ionns! You are the epitome of the half empty guy, except I have a feeling your cup has a hole in the bottom and never gets filled to that halfway mark!

The comparison of what you and FD said about Scotland is apples and oranges. He was talking about the physical beauty that he recalled, and you are talking about the ugliness of your view of the social system. Neither has anything to do with the other.

[bakbjerg]

Just browsed by this thread, and perhaps I don't understand anything, being an alien just landed. But as a foreign moved here from the Scandinavian lands of honey, I would like to tribute Scotland. The nature, the kind people, the non-stressed attitude to life, and the best school on the planet for my kids, (Drumlemble).
Believe me happiness isn't just a matter of salary and 5 bedrooms etc. I have travelled a lot around the world, including America, Asia, eastern Europe before and after the cold war, ... Given the opportunity to settle down where I liked it best, for some years, has brought me to Scotland !!
By the way: thank you all British for standing up for all of us through the great wars and the cold war, because first of all, it’s freedom and security that matters.

[ionnsaigh]

Bakbjerk, Glad you like my country, and you found the best school on the planet for your kids. I take it you never had to apply for a clothing grant then.
As far as the war against Fascism was concerned I believe the first people to be killed where Communists.
Oh and don't forget the Spanish Civil War of 36 and the number of Scots who joined The International Brigades.
Oh and by the way, a wee word of advice, some of us don't like being called British, thank you.
Drumlemble is only a couple of miles from one of the biggest airstrips in Europe. Aye freedom and security.

[ionnsaigh]

Bobbie, my cup overfloweth

[bakbjerg]

..As far as the war against Fascism was concerned I believe the first people to be killed where Communists..

Not that I meant to open an historical debate, but wheren't the communist the ones that made a non-attack treaty with Hitler, and safely kept out of his way until they where attacked themselves ? And after the war kept several "liberated" countries occupied for decades ??

.. a wee word of advice, some of us don't like being called British, thank you. ..

Sorry, I didn't call any of you British, I was thanking your countries, at least that was what I was intending to do in my reduced english vocabulary. And please don't take any offence in me calling the language I use for "english"

[ionnsaigh]

bakbjerg,
no your wrong, the first people to be murdered where German Communists. The Brits also had a non attack treaty with Hitler. After the war British and American Armies have remained in Germany to this the present day.

[bakbjerg]

bakbjerg,
no your wrong, the first people to be murdered where German Communists. .

I haven't mentioned anything about who was killed first, and I can't see what it has to do with my input to this topic about my views about Scotland. So you can have the last word about that.

The Brits also had a non attack treaty with Hitler.

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Sorry, I thought Churchill was the first (and only?) to declare Hitler war, when he entered Poland, allthough it was far from UK, but neighbouring the Soviet ?

After the war British and American Armies have remained in Germany to this the present day.

And George Bush is president for germany as well ??

I rest my case, I was only entering this topic to pay a positive tribute to living in Scotland.

[Sweltered]

Welcome to Scotland

[general jack o'niell]

ignore him, he's only trying to alienate you, he complains about everything and everyone, and he certainly doesn't speak for the rest of us, who are quite happy to enter into discourse without first making use of your friendly neighbourhood search engine in order to score some cheap points.

welcome to scotland, welcome to campbeltown, as long as your not taking a job a campbeltown man could do or has done prior to your arrival that is?

how i see scotland? home, thats how i see it, the bleak picture of the central belt painted elsewhere affects me just about as much as a news story about famine or flood from the other side of the world, in other words it doesn't, i'm glad i was born here, i intend to die here, i don't believe my children could get a better education anywhere in the world, i don't think i could live anywhere more beautiful, warmer yes, dryer, yes, but theres no such thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothes.

can't say i'm overly fond of the people, but i suppose i'd have that attitude wherever i was, but the country? it's my country, i love it and anyone that doesn't or would rather see the worst in it? just leave, you won't be missed

[ionnsaigh]

Aye and Putin, is President of Yugoslavia.

[ionnsaigh]

A- the freedom of speech- Scotland is my country has been for the last 54years and will remain so.

[general jack o'niell]

sometime the freedom of speech thing gets mixed up with the right to remain silent, i rest my case.

[Sheik Yir Erse]

Bakbjerg - we're delighted to have you in our country and glad you appreciate it. It's probably easier for you to be objective than the rest of us.

You will have noticed that there are some Scots who are content to move forward to the future, and there are some who want to be restrained by the past.

Were you aware that we had an unpleasant past? Some people were put off their land to be replaced by sheep in the 18th Century Bet nothing untoward ever happened like that in your homeland?

Some people here faced religious persecution in the past Again bet you've never heard about anything like that in the other countries you have visited?

Some people are in poverty (in relative terms) and have to ask the state for assistance. The state generally always gives assistance.

Some naughty people don't pay fines and go to jail The jail's in your homeland will no doubt be sparsely populated, if you have any at all.

As I said some people want to look to the future, and I'm glad you at least appear to be doing that

We are not alone in our history, or our problems, and we are not unique. The only thing that makes us unique is our land and our people, and I generally find with both these aspects, we have a lot to be proud of.

Welcome, and lang mae yir lum reek.

PS. Don't think I mentioned the war, hopefully I got away with it

[Beachcomber]

Sorry, I thought Churchill was the first (and only?) to declare Hitler war, when he entered Poland, allthough it was far from UK, but neighbouring the Soviet ?

Actually it was Neville Chamberlain who announced the declaration of war with Germany in 1939. Churchill wasn't PM yet. The Soviets had negotiated a non-agression treaty with Nazi Germany just a few days prior to the start of WW2.

[bakbjerg]

Thank you, Sweltered, General & Sheik. Happy just to be here.

From time to time great magazines have declared Denmark to be the best country to live in, or Danes to be the happiest people. But here's a dane that like Scotland better. But when Denmark hopefully meets Scotland in football next summers world cup, I will be in two minds.

And thank you Beachcomber for filling the gap in my history knowledge, (at least I got the country's right).