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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby Ship called Dignity » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:38 pm

DRUMLEMEN1 wrote:I have read the comments about Polish Worker's getting jobs at Skycon. One has to ask the question were there applicants within the local unemployed suitably skilled enough for the jobs on offer by Skycon. If that answer is no then Skycon are within their rights to employ workers from anywhere within the EU for the skillsets required at the same rates of pay that would be paid to UK workers.


From what I have heard there are certainly a percentage who are not skilled enough yet end up with jobs elsewhere which is a shame for locals who have been knocked back for jobs like Bud etc

Why isn't there a similar set-up like there was years ago with the Shipyard where young local people are trained as apprentices away from the factory (or indeed in it) ensuring employment in future years. If this had happened back at the start with Vestas then the local skill required would be there????
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby bill » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:35 pm

A subject that has not been addressed as yet is of course wages.

Are the Polish workers on a lower rate of pay??

Do they have the same contract of employment?.... overtime rates/holiday entitlement/sick pay ?

Are they in effect cheap labour?
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby minsyb » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:42 pm

A vast majority of the Polish workers are being trained by the local workers to carry out the required jobs.
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby MPR » Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:50 am

minsyb wrote:A vast majority of the Polish workers are being trained by the local workers to carry out the required jobs.


so if they are training polish workers, do they not have the ability to train local workers? something smells here.
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby maxmix » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:33 am

bill wrote:I for one do not see how an influx of E U immigrants who will send a very big percentage of their wages home can be beneficial to the local economy.


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80% of their wages will be sent home.... and the other 20% will be spent locally...... 8|

























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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby maxmix » Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:36 am

minsyb wrote:A vast majority of the Polish workers are being trained by the local workers to carry out the required jobs.


From what i've heard from 3 people (That have been working there from the start) They cant get on with their own jobs because of the time they are spending with the 'New starts'

Sounds like a good way to run a factory floor lol

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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby DRUMLEMEN1 » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:05 am

If the Polish workers are being trained I wonder if the next steps will be that Skycon move to Poland with their newly trained workforce.
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby bakbjerg » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:34 pm

I could be wrong, but I think the HR responsible, who employes people out there, is a local and not Danish. :wink:

(I don't think there's any Danish managers out there at all, which I don't understand)
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby zeus » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:59 pm

More Poles continue to arrive and once more the M.O.D and SKYCON seem to be in cahoots as again they will be housed on the Machrihanish ...
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby Kintyre Forum News » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:03 pm

zeus wrote:More Poles continue to arrive


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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby maxmix » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:21 am

zeus wrote:More Poles continue to arrive and once more the M.O.D and SKYCON seem to be in cahoots as again they will be housed on the Machrihanish ...


As I said on an earlier post.... You must be crazy to have thought anything else !!!!!

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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby bakbjerg » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:56 am

maxmix wrote:
zeus wrote:More Poles continue to arrive and once more the M.O.D and SKYCON seem to be in cahoots as again they will be housed on the Machrihanish ...


As I said on an earlier post.... You must be crazy to have thought anything else !!!!!

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So who are you pointing your gun at; the local all scottish and british managers for not employing enough locals, or the company owners for employing local managers ? :@
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby Hels » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:00 pm

Have any trained locals gone for jobs there and been turned down? If so, this is very worrying!

Also, have any locals gone for the apprentice jobs, only for them then to be given to immigrants? Again, worrying if this is the case.

If local people are not applying for the jobs, or if the immigrants are actually trained, then I can uderstand Skycon "importing" labour in order to meet production needs. If however, the doors have been closed to locals or the Polish workers are being paid less, then I am really concerned.
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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:59 pm

Mrs Sheik and I were hosting a dinner party the other night, which included the founder of Apple Computers. Once everyone had left for the evening we noticed that all our Mr Sheen had gone. I said to my Mrs Sheik "Typical! That bloody Jobs come over here and steals all our polish!" :shock:

Sorry - couldn't resist it. :wink:

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Re: SKYCON ORDER

Postby WTC » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:40 pm

From todays Sunday Herald:

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The wind tower factory at the foot of the Kintyre peninsula is poised to attract up to 80 high-end research jobs as its Danish owner plots the next phase of its renewables expansion.


Welcon Towers, part of the Aarhus-headquartered Skykon group, which rescued 100 jobs at the plant last year when it bought out fellow Danish outfit Vestas, is now processing orders amounting to £75 million. It aims to set up a research and services base that would very likely go to its plant at Machrihanish by Campbeltown.

Niels Brix, vice-president of Skykon, said that the facility would develop next-generation designs and processes, as well as helping customers to source other parts beyond the towers that are made at Machrihanish.

Although he would not be drawn on how many posts would be involved in the new facility, which would work in tandem with Skykon’s existing research base in Denmark, it is understood that it would be between 50 and 80. There are already a handful of people working on these tasks at Machrihanish. “I can envisage that the UK is the largest market right now and would be an interesting place geographically to ramp up that kind of facility,” he said.

the bigger picture is that we are getting skilled people and very dedicated locals onboard. Niels Brix
“[The Machrihanish plant] has a need for it and could accommodate it. On the other hand, we won’t ramp it up tomorrow.”

He said that the company would take a decision on the facility “within two years”, by which time it aims to have finished upgrading the Scottish plant and port infrastructure and to have increased manufacturing jobs from the current 110 to more than 300.

Brix was speaking in Scotland during a trip to Kintyre, where the company has now spent millions of pounds upgrading the factory, including putting up a new building, to be able to cope with offshore wind towers and not just the smaller onshore output.

“We have nearly finished the first facility. We installed heavy rolling equipment, welding equipment and have initiated a new painting facility,” he said.

“We still require more welding equipment and need to erect one more building on the site.”

He added that the plant was running at full capacity, turning out more than 300 towers a year for Vestas, Siemens and Spanish group Gamesa, among others. Production is running 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and the grey towers are being shipped from the local harbour to UK onshore and offshore sites, including the Clyde Wind Farm near Glasgow. The plant is also temporarily supplying places as far afield as Canada and Romania to fulfil a supply agreement with Vestas as part of the handover.

Brix did concede that the company was finding it challenging to attract enough workers to the area, with remoteness and quality of housing among the sticking points.

“It can be a little harder to recruit,” he said. “But the bigger picture is that we are getting skilled people and very dedicated locals onboard. I’m not going to discuss what kinds of jobs have been the most difficult.”

He reiterated previous comments reported in these pages that the company was also considering setting up one more site on the east side of the UK, which is tipped to be in Scotland too. With Skykon in the business of making offshore wind foundations and components as well as towers, he said that it was eyeing sites for a possible UK expansion in towers or foundations. He stressed, however, that the main focus was on “ramping up” Machrihanish.

While Scotland’s authorities are feeling the pressure to ensure that some of the expected boom in renewables jobs reaches north of the border, the Skykon deal was a coup when it first emerged in December 2008. It is currently the only company making wind towers in the UK, many of which are still supplied from Germany and the Netherlands.

The total deal was worth £45m, with almost £10m supplied from public development agencies Scottish Development International and Highlands and Islands Enterprise.
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