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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby minsyb » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:38 pm

Locals were interviewed and the majority were not successful! Most of the Polish employees do not speak English and are being trained by the locals to carry out the jobs.
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby maxmix » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:11 am

minsyb wrote:Locals were interviewed and the majority were not successful! Most of the Polish employees do not speak English and are being trained by the locals to carry out the jobs.


Were the locals not successfull because they never spoke English ? :mrgreen:

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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby DRUMLEMEN1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:49 am

I have read all the comments in this forum about the hire of Polish workers.
One has to ask the question why are the Polish workers being hired?
Answer from an Employer's perspective may be one of the following:-
1. Local's inteviewed do not have the job skill's required for the positions available.
2. Polish worker's interviewed have the job skills required even though they do not speak English.
3. Polish worker's cost less to employ than local worker's.
4.Suitable Worker's from UK outwith Campbeltown area not wanting to relocate due to lack of suitable housing availability and no cash incentive to relocate.
5. Employer wants to open factory in Poland and therefore have trained workforce ready on opening.

The article in the Herald yesterday basically said that Skycon were having difficulty recruiting. I would assume that this meant that the majority of the job applicants were not suitable for the jobs on offer.
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby Jacobite » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:10 am

Its not just them up to those tricks in Campbeltown, Kintyre Care Centre are bringing in yet more workers from abroad, and they arrange accomodation for them before they arrive, pay a deposit and rent, they dont pay council tax because of a scam as they are doing svqs, but Scots that are doing the same course do pay council tax ???? this very generous help can be paid back a bit at a time, how kind this company is, if only Kintyre Care Centre offered this same kindness to Scots. Maybe they are going to bring elderly residents from Romania, Poland etc.to fill their beds next, dont think they would pay £600 a week for the pleasure of residing there.
How is unemployment in Campbeltown at the moment? certainly plenty of locals have applied for these jobs.
We could learn a lot from the Jewish and Indian community, they always help their own people to prosper. :roll:
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby antics » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:10 pm

But is it not unhealthy to have diregard for other people who have come here to earn a crust to support their families or to improve their economic prosperity. It seems to be fair enough if we (folks from these here shores) decide we want to go and work somewhere else. Whether its Australia, Spain, India or where ever. People are people, and for centuries people have migrated for economic reasons. Starting to blame the Polish workers or any other migrant workers for taking up opportunities, is the kind of unhealthy prejudice that can lead to the kind of scary stuff that Hitler prospered on.

Not saying that it is a good thing that local people are out of work, there should be greater community benefit and supply chain benefits when companies like Vestas or Skycon take the public funding that has been afforded to them. Local people can and have been trained up to be effective members of the workplace for Vestas and Skycon.
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby red » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:37 pm

Well said antics !
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby bassett » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:43 pm

red wrote:
bassett wrote:Does anyone know of any of the immigrant workers having brought their families with them to the town?

Why... do ye wanna buy them sherbert fountains ? :lol:


WHAT'S WITH THE SILLY/STUPID/CHILDISH REMARK TO A SENSIBLE QUESTION :?:
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby bassett » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:50 pm

antics wrote:Not saying that it is a good thing that local people are out of work, there should be greater community benefit and supply chain benefits when companies like Vestas or Skycon take the public funding that has been afforded to them. Local people can and have been trained up to be effective members of the workplace for Vestas and Skycon.



According to yesterdays online edition of The Herald it is a whopping £9.2 million.So not only are the foreign workers taking the jobs,but the money is coming out of Scottish Government coffers to do it.



http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/ ... -1.1038566
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby red » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:55 pm

I've seen allsorts of figures mentioned -think most of them are up the pole !
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby Govangirl » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:08 pm

antics wrote:But is it not unhealthy to have diregard for other people who have come here to earn a crust to support their families or to improve their economic prosperity. It seems to be fair enough if we (folks from these here shores) decide we want to go and work somewhere else. Whether its Australia, Spain, India or where ever. People are people, and for centuries people have migrated for economic reasons. Starting to blame the Polish workers or any other migrant workers for taking up opportunities, is the kind of unhealthy prejudice that can lead to the kind of scary stuff that Hitler prospered on.


Great post. I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who have welcomed them, made a few Polish friends, drank with them, etc. They seem to be labelled as some sort of enemy and that's quite scary.
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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby WC1 » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:50 pm

I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who have welcomed them, made a few Polish friends, drank with them, etc. They seem to be labelled as some sort of enemy and that's quite scary.


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Re: M.O.D HOUSING POLISH WORKERS AT MACHRIHANISH

Postby EMDEE » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:03 pm

Govangirl wrote:I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who have welcomed them, made a few Polish friends, drank with them, etc. They seem to be labelled as some sort of enemy and that's quite scary.


Over the last few years, I have got to know some of the Polish community quite well, and get on very well with them. Our youngest son in particular has many Polish friends, (as well as Chinese, Bangladeshi and Indian) and has actually learned to speak a bit of their language. We are merely witnessing economic migration which has gone on throughout history, and the absorption of other nationalities adds to the cultural diversity of our communities.

It is maybe the case that disagreement with Government or EU policy manifests itself as a resentment against the presence of certain nationalities, but this is wholly wrong, as they are here, as stated earlier, to earn a crust, something that is a lot more difficult to do in their own country, and as far as the UK is concerned, it is a case of the pot and the kettle, as we have done the same thing throughout history, on a far bigger scale .
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