Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby EMDEE » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:46 am

Interesting that it's now being suggested that he may last as long as another ten years. :<>
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby blueboyno1 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:32 am

i have just lost a good friend of mine who had the exact same type of cancer for 15 years.
Megrahi was given life and he should have died in prison ,he was convicted of murdering 270 people and should have served his punishment no matter what.Sutcliff has just been refused parole and has to die in jail (rightly so)for killing thirteen ,where does the difference come in.
Say for talking sake some guy is diagnosed tomorrow with termilal cancer and the next day he decides he is going to murder six people who pissed him off during his lifetime .When tried and convicted do they just send him home because he has terminal cancer and he lasts for years.
I just cannot imagine what some of the victims family think about this.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby LANDROVER ROGER » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:36 am

Spot on blueboy.With you all the way on that one.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby ionnsaigh » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:48 pm

You seem to forget the huge question mark that hangs over the original conviction.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby LANDROVER ROGER » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:58 pm

ionnsaigh wrote:You seem to forget the huge question mark that hangs over the original conviction.

Please expand.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby blueboyno1 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:20 pm

No expansion neede he was convicted end of.
He was guilty no doubt in my mind ,what about all the garbage he was spouting about how he woukd reveal the guilty party and prove his innocence before he died .Aye right ,in order for him to do that he would have to implecate his leader and he was never about to do that.This man has got away with mass murder and what is more the Scottish ministers who condoned it are a bunch of idiots for letting it happen and they still wont admit that they were wrong.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby SBpete » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:10 pm

John Pilger, for one, is not convinced. His book Tell Me No Lies contains an interesting review of the trial and the many "grey" areas.
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=547
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby blueboyno1 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:46 pm

I have heard all the arguments about how he was fitted up and all the rest of it ,but the fact still remains that he was found guilty and should have served his sentence ,if that meant he died in jail then so be it ,as i said i am still waiting for his proof that he did not commit this terrible crime .If he comes up with the proof then i will be willing to listen but until then all the two bob conspiracy theories put forward by so called experts so far as i am concerned are just that.The man stands convicted and there has been no hard evidence uncovered to prove anything different.Alex Salmond is only making Scotland a bigger laughing stock and bringing shame on us by refusing to admit that they were wrong in releasing him.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby easypeasy » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:37 pm

I still believe McKaskill's decision was linked in some way with the appeal ,which was imminent against Al Megrahi's conviction.Mr Squires is still convinced Al Megrahi is wrongly accused and wants a public enquiry and the goverment are resolutely refusing. The appeal or the enquiry may bring to light something the goverment would rather be kept secret. :?:
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby Sweltered » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:48 pm

blueboyno1 wrote:I have heard all the arguments about how he was fitted up and all the rest of it ,but the fact still remains that he was found guilty and should have served his sentence ,if that meant he died in jail then so be it ,as i said i am still waiting for his proof that he did not commit this terrible crime .If he comes up with the proof then i will be willing to listen but until then all the two bob conspiracy theories put forward by so called experts so far as i am concerned are just that.The man stands convicted and there has been no hard evidence uncovered to prove anything different.Alex Salmond is only making Scotland a bigger laughing stock and bringing shame on us by refusing to admit that they were wrong in releasing him.



Exactly, who cares if he did it or not, he was found guilty and should rot in prison for it.
OOH did they knock down McCaigs folly.....
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby ionnsaigh » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:19 pm

blueboyno1 wrote:Alex Salmond is only making Scotland a bigger laughing stock and bringing shame on us by refusing to admit that they were wrong in releasing him.


On the contrary - when the Scottish Government released Ali, they done so on compassionate grounds. For the first time, I took some pride in man's compassion to fellow man. So well done the Scottish Government. PS You wont receive that many, from me.

Sweltered wrote:Exactly, who cares if he did it or not, he was found guilty and should rot in prison for it.


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Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby Ship called Dignity » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:29 pm

ionnsaigh wrote:
blueboyno1 wrote:Alex Salmond is only making Scotland a bigger laughing stock and bringing shame on us by refusing to admit that they were wrong in releasing him.


On the contrary - when the Scottish Government released Ali, they done so on compassionate grounds. For the first time, I took some pride in man's compassion to fellow man. So well done the Scottish Government. PS You wont receive that many, from me.


I must admit - putting the case to the side - I'm like you Ionnsaigh and found the whole thing refreshing. That a small country made a decision without being the USA's lapdog. As for an enquiry into why Al Megrahi was released - tell them to get tae.....

Cameron was embarrassing the other day.....
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby Govangirl » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:39 pm

It is a humane justice that bases its decisions on compassion, however mistaken many of us may believe that to be. The fact that a dying man isn't dead yet probably doesn't change that BUT I believe the Scottish government should not have rejected the bid by Tripoli to transfer Megrahi to a Libyan jail at least. If that decision, even made without being ANYONE'S lapdog, is right, as so many people seem to think, it is power without responsibility. By releasing him like that, it enabled him to evade public scrutiny over his guilt, so to me, the scandal isn't that he was released, isn't that he's still alive, isn't about this hysterical anti- Scottish, anti-American nor even the anti-BP nonsense from the Obama administration that Cameron is blatantly playing along with.

No. The real scandal is that we do not know the identity of the real murderers. And I believe politicians have their part to play in that. Thank God I'm not a relative of any of the murdered.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby blueboyno1 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:47 pm

Compassion my @rse where is the compassion for the 270 people this guy murdered ,its nothing to do with America telling us what to do ,we would be shouting the same odds if the shoe was on the other foot .No matter what this piece of garbage was convicted of the crime and thats that.Yer man Mcaskill is saying now that the British goverment are to blame and not him ,methinks he has a tale to tell.

Still waiting on the evidence to prove he is not guilty.
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Re: Lockerbie bomber: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi

Postby Ship called Dignity » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:18 pm

blueboyno1 wrote:Compassion my @rse where is the compassion for the 270 people this guy murdered ,its nothing to do with America telling us what to do ,we would be shouting the same odds if the shoe was on the other foot .No matter what this piece of garbage was convicted of the crime and thats that.Yer man Mcaskill is saying now that the British goverment are to blame and not him ,methinks he has a tale to tell.

Still waiting on the evidence to prove he is not guilty.


Blueboyno1. While you are at lets starting shouting for the heads of the Americans who started this whole mess?

Everyone and their granny knows what happened at Lockerbie was a result of the callous act of the USA blowing Iran Air Flight IR655 - a civilian aircraft en route from Iran to Dubai on 3rd July 1988 which was shot down over the over the Strait of Hormuz by the USS Vincennes, an American guided missile cruiser.

All 290 on board, crew and passengers including 66 children, perished in the attack. This is the 7th worst ever air fatality.

The Vincennes was in Iranian waters at the time – in the Strait of Hormuz and when it was shot down, the aircraft was in Iranian airspace.

The US government’s defence of the incident was that the crew had misidentified the Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat fighter. The photographs above of the two aircraft severely test the credibility of this explanation. The Tomcat is a delta wing and would not have an air profile remotely resembling that of the Airbus A300.

You would think the way some people have reacted that we wanted the Lockerbie disaster to happen in our country, that it never killed any Scots, that it never wiped out a village in Scotland. Something that appears to have been lost throughout. :?
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