New Tesco

[Kevin]

Not only are Tesco trying to get another store in the toon but it looks like they are trialling new methods for circumnavigating planning law in Denmark....

[DENIS.THE.TRUE.MANC.]

We've just got a big new 24 hour Tesco in Greater Manchester with opening offers like Budweiser 660 ml bottle £1.66 or 2 for £3.00 ( especially welcome after the result against chelsea !!! )

[Govangirl]

( especially welcome after yesterday's result against chelsea !!!)

Woohoo!!!! A true Manc right enough!

[Isa]

Set me thinking about what shops it will affect if the plans for Tesco go ahead as to what shops it will affect.

Going down Main Street from

A. P. taylor.. Tesco Kilt hire? Don't thinks so
Sportif..Tesco didn't close that
Victoria wine....opening up as ? and have said they will stock what Tesco don't sell anyway
Morrison's..Tesco only stock costume jewllery
Daniels.They have been gone for a long time.
McKellars.They cater quite nicely for all, no Wednesday or public holiday closing for them. Long live Kellars.
McIlchere's..Tesco bakeries don't handle food and money with the same hands.
Chemist.....Boots don't know about them?
Pound shop. Craft shop, amusements and factory shop, no concern there, is there?

I went right up Longrow and cannot see a shop that Tesco will seriously compete with unless they are going into furniture, carpets, Esse stoves and clipping dogs hair.

I am struggling to think of any shop that will be seriously affected by a new Tesco. We keep hearing stories about a Ghost town and how it will affect traders. I am trying to understand where the protesters are coming from. I am not syaing they are right or wrong but could one trader at least come on and say how it will affect them. Please. It might give me a new outlook on the whole issue.

Thanks

isa

[WTC]

The proposed store will as big as the one in Oban. A one stop shop with loads of parking.

It will stock clothes.

It will stock home ware goods.

It will have an in store bakery with possible take out food/canteen area.

It will have extended butchery range.

It will have extended fishmonger range.

It will have an extended seasonal section. (Gardening in summer and toys at xmas etc)

It will be pushing insurance, other financial products, banking, baby & toddler goods, electrical goods and all the various online offshoots which could have an indirect effect.

It will also offer photographic services.

[Isa]

If shoppers want this to happen then they must be dissatisfied with the existing shopping facilities.

I am not canvassing for a new store. My post really was to ask how it would affect other shopkeepers? This keeps being alluded to but no trader as far as I know has specified how it will affect them. Just curious

But now that you have mentioned it most of what you have written above will be welcomed by shoppers especially the clothes, bakery and canteen. Nothing wrong with toys at xmas. Where else is there a selection in town? The existing store has leaflets all over the place pushing financial products, insurance and banking. No change there. An extended fishmonger range? Does that mean we will be able to buy fish on a Sunday, Monday and a Wednesday afternoon? and I like the idea of more parking. Have you tried to get a place at 5 o clock when you come out of work?

The meeting should be interesting!

[maxmix]

Good points in your original post.... I can't wait for the new Tesco to open... (Won't be long now (Hopefully) )

And with the new location, well away from the town centre plus the extra jobs created, it will go down well with the general public when it opens....

No matter where you go you will find opposition to every new or upgraded venture.... Thats just the way it is...

Hopefully the majority see it that way...

maxmix

[EMDEE]

Tesco, and other supermarket giants, have left town centres throughout the British Isles with little more than the vestigial remnants of what were previously thriving locally owned retail economies. They are highly efficient at tagetting local markets, and will even compete against pound shops. To imagine that they will have little impact on a town is to place hope above experience. I can see the point that certain shops have a local niche market that may not be affected by a Superstore, but the general drift away from the town centre will have an impact on every business.

I can see the attractions of shopping at Tescos, but the prospect of a monopoly is not a good one for any local economy.

Question: Why have Tesco become such a huge and influential company? Is it because they are such a philanthropic business that wants to put customer service first and provide the best service they can to their customers?

Answer: Yes and no. They do want to put customer service well up their list of their priorities, but this is only as a means of taking the local economy to the cleaners and maximising their profits. Any local economy only has a limited disposable income, and Tesco can only justify their existence by poaching some of this from local traders who cannot compete against their prices and the service they provide.

It's not just Tesco. Earlier tonight I was in Fort William, and it is Morrisons who have the monopoly up there. Other places have Asda.

In Oban it is Tesco. We mostly go to the Coop, But there is also Lidl and Aldi. These two are the places to shop if you want a bit of peace and quiet and want to be alone. Actually, I don't see how they can survive.

[Isa]

Tesco, and other supermarket giants, have left town centres throughout the British Isles with little more than the vestigial remnants of what were previously thriving locally owned retail economies.

Emdee, Campbeltown has not been a busy retail economy for a long time The amount of shoppers who go to the city at xmas either for a day trip or to stay for a couple of days to do their seasonal shopping because the town cannot supply their needs makes that evident.

the general drift away from the town centre will have an impact on every business

Online shopping is huge and we here in the town are just as busy as anywhere else on the keyboard and that has already made an impact everywhere just as much as Tesco or any of the other Superstores.

I can see the attractions of shopping at Tescos, but the prospect of a monopoly is not a good one for any local economy.

True

Last night I came through Oban just before six and the centre was "heaving" Some shops still open. Campbeltown centre is never like that even on a busy day.

Maybe the supporters of this project will find you shouldn't wish too much for something or you might just get it but I also wonder what the objectors hope to achieve. Although I am on the fence at the moment I feel that the status quo is not an option. The customer just isn't catered for in the middle of the town and hasn't been for a long time.

[EMDEE]

The reason Oban town centre was "heaving" last night at six o' clock is that it has a very robust economy, being a ferry terminal and main shopping and service centre for quite a number of the islands, and also quite a large area of the mainland hinterland. Much of the local economy is also based on tourism, which is all year round. Although the town centre is undeniably and obviously busier than Campbeltown, the rise of the supermarket has had an effect on local businesses, many in the retail sector having closed. It is simply a matter of fortunate geography that it has not had a bigger impact on the town.

I am aware that Campbeltown has not had a busy retail economy for quite a number of years, but my reference to this was in the context of the British Isles, not specifically Campbeltown.

At the end of it all, it is market forces that decide how things go in the economy, and there is little that can be done to alter this. If customers use a service it will be provided, and if Tesco didn't think there was a demand for a superstore they would not be planning one. They're not daft.

[Isa]

At the end of it all, it is market forces that decide how things go in the economy, and there is little that can be done to alter this. If customers use a service it will be provided, and if Tesco didn't think there was a demand for a superstore they would not be planning one. They're not daft.

You think it's a slam dunk then and Thursday is just a PR exercise?

Haven't seen much debate about it apart from a few comments on here. Maybe nobody is really that interested either way.

[EMDEE]

At the end of it all, it is market forces that decide how things go in the economy, and there is little that can be done to alter this. If customers use a service it will be provided, and if Tesco didn't think there was a demand for a superstore they would not be planning one. They're not daft.

You think it's a slam dunk then and Thursday is just a PR exercise?

Haven't seen much debate about it apart from a few comments on here. Maybe nobody is really that interested either way.

I certainly hope that it's not a fait accompli and that voices from all sides of the argument will be listened to. After all, that's what democracy is supposed to be about. I think it is very unfortunate that the proposed new Tesco superstore has been linked so closely with the new creamery which will undoubtedly be an asset to the Kintyre economy, providing excellent value-added products to national markets while supporting the local agricultural economy.

[Isa]

Don't think I know anyone who likes shopping for groceries so maybe most folk think that if the experience can be made more "pleasurable" then bring it on. I can't say the experience in the Tesco at the moment is ideal. To small for the amount of shoppers and as a Metro the range of goods is severly limited. I am not talking about anything other than food especially the pathetic freezer facilities.

As you say it is a shame that the new Creamery seems to be conditional on the new tesco. Bit of a dilemma all round for the Council.

[Kintyre Forum News]

When is the open day about the proposals?

[Tom B]

At the end of it all, it is market forces that decide how things go in the economy.

market forces operating within a framework set by government to safeguard the economic, social and environmental needs of the community.