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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby 4th gen Suthen' » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:39 am

Trev wrote:Was told by a man in the local pub that it means Winged Rock and refers to the music of Paul McCartney's group.

aye, that fellow got a Wings tour jacket when they stayed in Keil in summer '78, he wore it constantly for decades! most of us just got pin badges and photos :lol:
He is still well to the fore that chap, a well known Southend character...he knows his stuff and if he says Carskiey is named after a winged rock then it is!

And, there are a few local pronounciations of the place, the final vowel varies and the syllable emphasis shifts ..... I certainly dont say it like some of my Southend friends! :roll: :wink:
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby Trev » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:36 pm

Any advance on "casKAYi " as the most common pronunciation ? (emphasis on KAY, with the "i" sometimes an "ee" )
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby Isa » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:30 pm

Trev wrote:Any advance on "casKAYi " as the most common pronunciation ? (emphasis on KAY, with the "i" sometimes an "ee" )

Never heard it said without the R trev as in the above but I say CARS and then the KAEY like kite but without the "T" or the "E" ...Carski.... with the emphasis on the second syllable
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby Trev » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:26 pm

I know what you mean...the "r" is just about there, but tends to disappear when spoken quickly, because it's easier to say without the "r", in the same way that "Southend" loses it's "d". Suppose it's a case of how much effort someone makes which determines how it sounds, not just the locality. It would be interesting to be able to hear how place-names have changed over time in pronunciation and not just in spelling. With "Carskiey" the various modern spellings seem to appear with the Lowlanders settling in Southend, and one imagines that the pronunciation would then have gradually evolved through the generations.
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby fairyfreak » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:19 pm

You can find a lot more about Carskiey's history. The change in the spelling and more in the MacNeill of Carskey's journal..
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14147650/MacN ... 3-With-Map
(you don't have to read too far to find the paragraph about the spelling!)

I was always led to believe that the name had something to do with a rock on which a cormorant dries it's wings...which gave meaning to the Cormorant on the emblem above the front door of the Big House. It most certainly has nothing whatsoever to do with Paul McCartney, Wings (the band)...or that song!.
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby Trev » Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:03 pm

The man in the bar said that was where he took the name of the group from because he used to visit the lighthouse and stopped to look at the big house one day and saw the cormorant's wings above the entrance. That's also where he got the idea for the Mull Of Kintyre song, from his visits to Mr Harrow at the lighthouse. He towed us out of the boggy ground at The Gap once in the mid-70s with his Land Rover. I think it was the year the light changed to electric,1976. Almost sure daughter Stella was named after Mr. Harrow's wife, Stella.
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby fairyfreak » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:23 pm

:D Ok sorry .. I thought somehow there was an idea that .. mm.. well never mind. Didn't know the big cheese himself had ever set foot on Carskiey ground..or indeed made it down to the end of the Mull. Maybe he'll buy it! Stranger things have happened ..though the idea of a community buy out is really neat...so long as with all the publicity the price doesn't soar. :roll:
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby kakpraat » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:48 pm

Been to the house and farm often. it has not become rundown at all. this local gossip is harmful. 2,95 mill is the opening price to develop interest, which will be pushed up greatly, and there is a lot of demand for the property.
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby fairyfreak » Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:10 pm

there is a lot of demand for the property

Good ;) So there should be.
Don't think I've really seen that much gossip here...and certainly nothing harmful really.
People need to talk and everyone has a right to an opinion.
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby 4th gen Suthen' » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:10 pm

Trev, now I know you are at it.

I have heard every local version of "Carskiey" and none of them drops the R. But, there is one very strong example of dropping the R in Carskiey. I will need to do a wee bit of local research to be sure I have it 100% right. before I elaborate.
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby mrn » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:51 am

4th gen Suthen' wrote:Trev, now I know you are at it.

I have heard every local version of "Carskiey" and none of them drops the R. But, there is one very strong example of dropping the R in Carskiey. I will need to do a wee bit of local research to be sure I have it 100% right. before I elaborate.


Contradicting yourself there a bit 4th Gen! :D
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby 4th gen Suthen' » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:11 am

Kind of MRN, but just you wait till I do my big "reveal" and you will see what I mean :wink:

I did not word it very well though, in my defence I admit to having had a small Saturday night refreshment!
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby Kintyre Forum News » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:07 pm

Nice we clip on the TV yesterday morning . 8)

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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby Bobh » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:52 pm

Superb-thanks for that. :D
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Re: Carskiey for sale

Postby 4th gen Suthen' » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:05 pm

can that be downloadedand then uploaded to Youtube?
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