Children in Need.

[4th gen Suthen']

excellent WC1. Spot on.

[witchnettle]

Thanks WC1 great post and i totally agree with all the reasons for cancelling children in need fundraising.

From the point of view of my last post, i'm not the only parent who took that implication from your speech last summer,
it was when that you told us you would not be supporting children in need this year but supporting house charities instead and the school fund, that you asked us to give more.

So whatever your actual words were please remember that the message that parents (not just me) took home was dig deeper for the school.

If this is not what you meant then apologies from me, but perhaps you should understand that other parents heard this message too and you may want to address this.

thanks
Eleanor Sloan

[jdcarra]

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[jdcarra]

excellent WC1. Spot on.

I'll second that. Excellent reply to posting WCI .

[bill]

Bill wrote:

Hope we get to hear from WC1 on this issue.

and

I wonder which one of the above is WC1in disguise??

I saw the start of this thread before I went in to work on Friday morning, Bill, but decided to wait till I saw how things developed before chipping in my twopence worth. I've been away at a conference in Edinburgh all weekend anyway and I'm just in the door. As for the 'in disguise' bit, I will never use that kind of subterfuge in relation to this forum. My on-line ID is pretty transparent in any case and I have no reason to hide behind a cloak of anonymity. I have to say I think some of what has been posted is somewhat sinister in nature and that may be because people can hide their identity in this way. It's too easy to be extreme in what you say when you don't, in theory, have to answer for it.

No offence intended Willie.My first post was a genuine desire to hear your side of the story.The second post was a fun remark.

I am a great believer in charity begins at home. £13,000 would make a fantastic difference to a local charity,instead of being swallowed up into the Children in Need millions.

[WC1]

Thanks John, Eleanor, Johnny and Bill. I dug out last year's prize-giving speech this morning by the way. I hadn't realised till I read it again how deeply boring it was - I will have to try harder next year. Here's the offending section. I don't think it was quite as extreme as you remember it Eleanor!

"We continue to raise large amounts of money for charity and here I’m thinking particularly of Children in Need. Frankly, I don’t know how we do it, but this year we set another new record, raising some £13,000 for that appeal. There isn’t another school in the country that can match that. So well done last year’s S6, who organised it all. And as for the new S6, well, for the future, we’re going to be looking at the whole range of things we raise money for, not just Children in Need, and at the ways we raise it. There are the individual House charities to think of now, and we really do need in the present circumstances, to look at our own needs as a school. So there will be a collection as you leave tonight but this year it’s for the School Fund. Please give generously!"

[Govangirl]

The other thing that happened was that, earlier that same afternoon, I noticed that a small group of pupils hadn't gone into the Assembly Hall with the rest. It didn't take long to establish the reason: they had no money left. I suspect one or two of them had had no lunch for the same reason. That worried me a lot. I took them into the hall anyway, but it set me to thinking.

That sums it up, frankly.

That was just a brilliant post WC1. I think the main thing we have to remember is the outstanding amounts you, your school, your pupils and community have raised.

[witchnettle]

You are right WC1 its not as i remember it,
i guess i took exception to being asked to give generously when so many of us were starting to realise how desperate our financial situation was going to become.
As i said earlier i give to charity when i can, and i agree with children learning to help others not as fortunate as themselves but i do think folk should be left to decide themselves where they give, with out any prompting, not matter how well meant.
x

[petewick]

Every donation should be regarded as a gesture of generosity.

[ionnsaigh]

Every donation should be regarded as a gesture of generosity.

Yes of course it should... however one has to take into consideration, those that genuinely, can't afford to give. Children in Need is a terrible fact. Is the fate of our poor children, dependent on a yearly handout ? that undoubtedly makes some others, feel nice and morally cozy, before Christmas ? I wonder at times, how acceptable this tragic state of affairs is, in Scotland today.

[Ninja Mania]

Well done WC for taking this bull by the horn's at last.
This S6 beat that competition was getting way out of control, the financial strain the kid's were putting their parents under, just to get the CGS name on that little banner on the bottom of the tv screen, was terrible and I applaud your good sense in seeing this.
As we spoke about last night, if the pupils felt that hard done by, why did'nt S6 pupils do something themselves to raise money for CIN, I would have gladly gave them a few pounds each, just to see their rooms tidy, but like so many of the kids of today, they want money that they dont have to work for, god help this country when its their turn to run it.
There is nothing great about making lots of money for CIN, when all your doing is taking it out of your parent purse, to me thats not what raising money for charity is about.

[ionnsaigh]

but like so many of the kids of today, they want money that they dont have to work for, god help this country when its their turn to run it.

Got to say, I don't think this is fair comment.

[Ninja Mania]

Your entitled to your opinion too. Which particular part dont you agree with though, just curious.

[ionnsaigh]

Your entitled to your opinion too. Which particular part dont you agree with though, just curious.

Well to be frank, all of it... It's all negative, towards children..

[shipyard blues]

Yes, i totally agree with you ionnsaigh.I think that Ninja forgets he was a kid himself once...ok it was a long time ago.