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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby maxmix » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:43 am

UPDATE ! Work starts on the 2 shops Monday 11th May so....

All stock must go from Tradewinds, 9 Main Street... Sunday will be my last day selling ! Keyboards / Flash Drives / Mice / Printer Ink, Labels / Leathermans / Swiss Army knifes etc all reduced, COMPUTER & PHONE REPAIRS WILL BE AS NORMAL ! If i'm out, call the number on the shop door or in my profile, or TEXT

Also....

I have 7 brand new packs of Laminate flooring, cost £18 per 2.2M pack (£90 for the lot) Also some shelving and the counter... All must be cleared for Monday.... H

Thats all folks...

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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby Frosty » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:46 pm

I'm afraid that I will have to agree with Bill!
I was in Town last week , stopped at Tarbert on the way down (first time in many years )and I must say that the shops, Hotels and Restaurants ,on the edge of Tarbert Loch , were a lot busier ,plus their appearance and occupancies were at a much higher level , compared to Campbeltown Town Centre.
In fact it was how I remembered Campbeltown to be?

The additional life in Longrow and Main Steet ,that you reported BE, must have been on holiday for the four days and nights I was in Town , there was nobody around.

Your optimisim is to be applauded SCD , however , like Bill , my memory is of a bustling Town , people living in the flats above the shops in Main Steet and Longrow plus individual Pubs and a unique night life.

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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby Isa » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:20 pm

Frosty wrote:Your optimisim is to be applauded SCD , however , like Bill , my memory is of a bustling Town , people living in the flats above the shops in Main Steet and Longrow plus individual Pubs and a unique night life.fROSTY



Have to be blunt here.

The flats above the main street shops were filled with decent hardworking people who cared about their closes. The shops were mainly COOP owned. The majority of these flats are now filled with tenants who I wouldn't want next door to me and who couldn't give a toss about the town. I think a bookies will fit right in on the same level as the inhabitants of these flats.

Another bookies along with cut price shops will not be of any benefit to the Main Street. It certainly won't add to the aesthetics of my town. It all reflects how tatty the whole place has become.
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby f1ed » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:01 pm

Isa wrote:
Frosty wrote:Your optimisim is to be applauded SCD , however , like Bill , my memory is of a bustling Town , people living in the flats above the shops in Main Steet and Longrow plus individual Pubs and a unique night life.fROSTY



Have to be blunt here.

The flats above the main street shops were filled with decent hardworking people who cared about their closes. The shops were mainly COOP owned. The majority of these flats are now filled with tenants who I wouldn't want next door to me and who couldn't give a toss about the town. I think a bookies will fit right in on the same level as the inhabitants of these flats.

Another bookies along with cut price shops will not be of any benefit to the Main Street. It certainly won't add to the aesthetics of my town. It all reflects how tatty the whole place has become.


You're not just being blunt, you might as well add insulting and generalising to that list.

I guess you could be left off by saying the 'majority' but unless you know every single individual who lives on Main Street or Longrow you should probably have a think as to whether you should leave this post up. To generalise the whole of the town centre residents as 'lower level' - I'm presuming, as you related a bookies to the level of the residents, you didn't mean a 'higher level' than yourself, is taking focus completely away from the original discussion and just comes out as a plain insult and while I agree you should have your opinion on the matter, keep it away from generalising and insulting a large group of people.

I think your comment probably reached the lowest level possible.

Yours Sincerely,
A hard working, Main street living resident.
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby jaffacat » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:07 pm

f1ed wrote:
Isa wrote:
Frosty wrote:Your optimisim is to be applauded SCD , however , like Bill , my memory is of a bustling Town , people living in the flats above the shops in Main Steet and Longrow plus individual Pubs and a unique night life.fROSTY



Have to be blunt here.

The flats above the main street shops were filled with decent hardworking people who cared about their closes. The shops were mainly COOP owned. The majority of these flats are now filled with tenants who I wouldn't want next door to me and who couldn't give a toss about the town. I think a bookies will fit right in on the same level as the inhabitants of these flats.

Another bookies along with cut price shops will not be of any benefit to the Main Street. It certainly won't add to the aesthetics of my town. It all reflects how tatty the whole place has become.


You're not just being blunt, you might as well add insulting and generalising to that list.

I guess you could be left off by saying the 'majority' but unless you know every single individual who lives on Main Street or Longrow you should probably have a think as to whether you should leave this post up. To generalise the whole of the town centre residents as 'lower level' - I'm presuming, as you related a bookies to the level of the residents, you didn't mean a 'higher level' than yourself, is taking focus completely away from the original discussion and just comes out as a plain insult and while I agree you should have your opinion on the matter, keep it away from generalising and insulting a large group of people.

I think your comment probably reached the lowest level possible.

Yours Sincerely,
A hard working, Main street living resident.


You should have seen what she wrote before it was edited!!
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby MPR » Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:30 pm

I agree with her.She said what a lot wont say.
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby jaffacat » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:04 am

MPR wrote:I agree with her.She said what a lot wont say.


Yes but would she, and you, be brave enough to come out and give your real names or are you happy to hide behind your keyboards?

I know a lot of good people who stay in Main Street and they are disgusted by the original comment made by Isa before she edited it. In fact her revised statement isn`t much improved. I took a screenshot of it before she changed it and they are furious! In case any body missed it, she claimed "all the residents in Main Street flats are alcoholic junkies on benefits" :evil: :evil:
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby Isa » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:07 am

f1ed wrote:
Isa wrote:The shops were mainly COOP owned. The majority of these flats are now filled with tenants who I wouldn't want next door to me and who couldn't give a toss about the town. I think a bookies will fit right in on the same level as the inhabitants of these flats.

A hard working, Main street living resident.



f1ed, I assumed as it turns out wrongly on my part that everyone knew that the Coop shops in Main Street were mostly in the area from The factory Shop to the Chemist and as the discussion is on the arcade/bookies I should have made it clearer that was the area I meant. I never mentioned Longrow. I apologise if you as a worker took this as an insult.

I look on myself as on the same level as anyone who works, pays their taxes and abides by the law.

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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby Isa » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:09 am

You couldn't make it up :roll: That wee clipe (in my opinion) jaffacat was so offended by the unedited post he wanted it removed and now he likes it so much he has decided to post it again :shock:
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby smokynuk » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:36 am

jaffacat wrote:Yes but would she, and you, be brave enough to come out and give your real names or are you happy to hide behind your keyboards?

Yknow this is the only forum i know where offended people like to "call out" people who have made "offensive" comments. The old argument of "hiding behind your keyboards" always surfaces when someone takes offence :roll: I visit many other forums with adult discussions and not once does anyone bring their identity in question. Only in Campbeltown eh. :roll:

In anycase (going back to the subject) im guessing these hard working people in Main St and/or Longrow would prefer empty boarded up shops rather than something like a gambling arcade which could attract undesirables lurking around their close entrance.
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby Frosty » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:47 am

As my last paragraph started this wee debate , I would like to clarify a few points.
Main Street used to be exactly that. There were lots of individual shops , cafes and pubs which enticed everyone to carry out their shopping , Business and socialising in and around these establishments. All age groups were catered for , it was The Main Street!
All the residents of the flats contributed in helping maintain the aspect of the area by keeping their entrances clear and ensuring the windows etc. were smart. All this helped to ensured that the tourists went away with great photos and good memories , which helped to generate return visits.

Now , looking around Main Street last week , there is no great diversity of shops.
I'm not against an Amusement Arcade in the Town , there used to be a small unit behind the Picture House which traded as exactly that. However another shop window in the Towns Main Street ,enticing the public to gamble ,should receive serious consideration from both members of the public and the Town Council.

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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby jaffacat » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:57 am

smokynuk wrote:
jaffacat wrote:Yes but would she, and you, be brave enough to come out and give your real names or are you happy to hide behind your keyboards?

Yknow this is the only forum i know where offended people like to "call out" people who have made "offensive" comments. The old argument of "hiding behind your keyboards" always surfaces when someone takes offence :roll: I visit many other forums with adult discussions and not once does anyone bring their identity in question. Only in Campbeltown eh. :roll:.


So her quote wasn`t "offensive" in your opinion? Would she be so brave if confronted by a Main Street resident in the street? I don`t think so.

This "clipe" is actually disgusted with a few members on this forum and have, with deep regret, asked a Moderator to delete my account. :(
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby smokynuk » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:08 pm

Im not saying Isa's comment wasnt offensive, but i wasnt saying it was either. All im saying is that out of many many forums that i have visted in my lifetime, THIS is the only one where someone gets dared to say who they are and you are not the only one guilty of this.
It reminds me of playground antics where you are asked to meet at hometime to "work out" any differences you may have. And before you misconstrue my comment i emphasise the "it reminds me off" part of my comment.
Why is it such a big deal to know who it is? if you lived in London would you still want to know who it is? and if you did then what? Shout at them from across the street? Seriously, this does not happen anywhere else except here. Its the small town mentality of wanting to know where any opposing or controversial comment came from.

As for your asking to get your account deleted, whats wrong with just "not using it"?

I have nothing against you or Isa. I can understand your point of view being a main street resident, but surely as a hard working resident you would recognise that Isa isnt referring to yourself instead of taking offense. Her mention of "majority" was obviously from her point of view.
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby maxmix » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:06 am

Folks i'm just keeping the thread started on March 2010 up to date... The Courier's coverage has been non existent etc

I'd say the people coming onto a public forum and voicing their concern or slating others because of where they stay in the Town Centre is rather concerning especially on some of the comments I have read !

All the ranting on here should have been done long before the planning and Licenses were granted for the Adult Gaming Centre at number 9 and The Licensed Betting Office at number 11, last year.... there was plenty time for this to be done last year, maybe if you had approached whoever you had voted for etc things would have been different !

Once the new Tesco opens who knows how the Main Street will look as time goes by.... I can see it being filled with pound shops, Bookies, Fast food places yet...

Well lets hope the 2 new premises are open on a Wednesday afternoon for when the Waverley arrives....

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PS I don't know why there are comments above about concerns regarding children ! The same machines / betting can be done across the road in McGrorys old building (Scotbet) ! Licensed premises of this type (Same as a public bar) are for adults only (Over 18).... :!:
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Re: Do you want a gambling arcade on Main Street?

Postby D.H » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:11 pm

maxmix wrote:there was plenty time for this to be done last year, maybe if you had approached whoever you had voted for etc things would have been different ..

PS I don't know why there are comments above about concerns regarding children ! The same machines / betting can be done across the road in McGrorys old building (Scotbet) ! Licensed premises of this type (Same as a public bar) are for adults only (Over 18).... :!:


Two points to make:

In the original application there were 23 machines (which seems a lot to me) and again I quote the research about how this type of business attracts young people and women (the target audience in the application)to become gambling addicts.

The second point, which I think is very interesting, is that our Councilors had no say at the appeal. The appeal was decided by Cllr Daniel Kelly (Lomond North), Cllr Bruce Marshall (Cowal) and Cllr James McQueen (Dunoon). I am doubtful that it would have been supported by our Councillors.
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