Turbines or Tourism?

[Hinginboz]

Quite frankly, I say the people who live and work here 52 weeks a year are more important than visitors who come for 2 weeks, that what i'm getting at.....

[EMDEE]

Quite frankly, I say the people who live and work here 52 weeks a year are more important than visitors who come for 2 weeks, that what i'm getting at.....

This thread, as has been pointed out already is about "Turbines or Tourism". The revenue from the Tourism industry is generated from "visitors who come here for two weeks", so their importance to the Tourism industry is paramount.

Not having done much research on the impact of wind turbines on tourism, I cannot come down on either side of this argument, as my opinion would just be purely speculation. However, if it is indeed the case that wind turbines do in fact have a substantial effect on Tourism numbers, then this will impact on the people who live and work here 52 weeks of the year, and that is the matter for concern in this thread. Tourists should not be described as "less important", as they represent a significant part of the revenue of the fragile Kintyre economy.

As has already been stated , surveys on the effect of windfarms on Tourism can be subjectively geared towards the procurement of the desired result by the organisation conducting the survey, and shouldn't be given too much credibility unless they can be proven to be scientifically based and independent.

[LANDROVER ROGER]

Landrover Roger, I think its fair to say you have clearly emphasised you point regarding you returning and not being bothered by wind farms, we understand......crystal clear..........you dont need to say it again

I have stressed my point purely to keep this thread on topic.It would appear that certain members on here are trying to stray from the basic post.So don`t patronise my posts by attempting to make them look stupid.

[howlsatthemoon]

howlsatthemoon

The climate wouldn't have made a difference then?

The climate wouldn't have made a difference to what?

[daginge78]

PS. my 'Nimby Brigade' evidence:

Bexy (0)
North beachmore (0)
Magmeg (0)
Han_OH (0)
Democat101 (0)
Ejb (0)
Sewer (0)
daginge78 (0)
mankind (0)
Tracker (0)
Argyll tourist (1)

The above are forum members who have posted (often multiple times) against development proposals on the North Beachmore and Creggans wind farm threads. (The figures in brackets are the number posts these people made on the Machrihanish Bay Windfarms thread) Draw your own conclusions.

As someone on here has already said, you clearly have FAR too much time on your hands!

Or someone who has easy access to the forum stats....

[mankind]

Hear, hear, daginge78!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mankind]

So are you saying they don't count on Gigha because 'you don't really see them unless you go to that bit of the island'? By the same logic the turbines at Glenbarr won't have any effect on tourism in Kintyre either - because you wont be able to see them from 99.9% of Kintyre?

Is it safe to assume the turbines on Gigha have had no detrimental affect on their tourist trade? (I'm sure details of any catastrophic impact would have been posted before now by the Nimby Brigade) Or have they actually seen evidence of this 62% reduction? It would seem like a very obvious (local) proof point as opposed to various surveys conducted at different locations?

I'm afraid Sheik Yir Erse should have visited the presentation about the above-mentioned turbines in Glenbarr Hall. He would then have seen very graphically just what a huge impact they'd have on west Kintyre, and how highly visible they'd be over a very large area - certainly massively more than 0.1% would be affected by them!

[Sheik Yir Erse]

Or someone who has easy access to the forum stats....

It's very simple to do, and probably took me less than 5 minutes to find out. Here's how you do it:

Click on the Forum Members name.
This will take you to a page about the person.
In the lower right hand side there's a section called User Statistics
Click on Search Users Posts
It will show you all the threads someone has posted on.

the above 'clique' don't have many posts to go through, and it doesn't take that long to count to zero!

All information freely available to all, no hidden Forum black magic involved.

Interesting that everyone has seen fit to comment on how the statistics were arrived at, rather than the message contained within them.

[daginge78]

Or someone who has easy access to the forum stats....

It's very simple to do, and probably took me less than 5 minutes to find out. Here's how you do it:

Click on the Forum Members name.
This will take you to a page about the person.
In the lower right hand side there's a section called User Statistics
Click on Search Users Posts
It will show you all the threads someone has posted on.

the above 'clique' don't have many posts to go through, and it doesn't take that long to count to zero!

All information freely available to all, no hidden Forum black magic involved.

Interesting that everyone has seen fit to comment on how the statistics were arrived at, rather than the message contained within them.

Someones been rumbled...

[LANDROVER ROGER]

I think that this is turning in to "Turbines or Terrorism".

[Han_OH]

Interesting that everyone has seen fit to comment on how the statistics were arrived at, rather than the message contained within them.

I think you'll find that Bexy replied to your message straight away!

[Sheik Yir Erse]

Someones been rumbled...

What exactly does that mean ......?

[daginge78]

Someones been rumbled...

What exactly does that mean ......?

You can draw your own conclusions...

[Admin3]

Can I just clarify that there are two people who have administrator rights to this forum, one who has openly clarified there position on here and the other (myself) who has not contributed to the thread - which if I did I would under my own account. (most people know that).

No other person has access rights to stats etc. We have moderators (annoymous to each other and the forum) who simply moderate. So nothing sinister about any of the posts.

Please keep to the thread as I for one am enjoying the posts and thank you for using the Kintyre Forum as a medium to discuss this.

Admin3 (also KF Adminstrator)

[daginge78]

Can I just clarify that there are two people who have administrator rights to this forum, one who has openly clarified there position on here and the other (myself) who has not contributed to the thread - which if I did I would under my own account. (most people know that).

No other person has access rights to stats etc. We have moderators (annoymous to each other and the forum) who simply moderate. So nothing sinister about any of the posts.

Please keep to the thread as I for one am enjoying the posts and thank you for using the Kintyre Forum as a medium to discuss this.

Admin3 (also KF Adminstrator)

Cool story bro...