Turbines or Tourism?

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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby Hinginboz » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:58 pm

Oh come on now, dont be like that, most people dont mind them, especially the tourists, so it'll be fine, you'll get used to the destroyed countryside, the shadow flicker, the noise, and the shear scale of this hideous monstrosity, honestly some folk, they're so selfish. Have a thought for the poor "farming family"................
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby north beachmore » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:10 am

According to planning application details, the distance to the nearest residential dwelling at North Beachmore is 627mt. So it may not be the back garden but it is certainly in our presence!!!
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby LANDROVER ROGER » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:31 am

This keeps going round and round. :D
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby Bexy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:49 am

LANDROVER ROGER wrote:This keeps going round and round. :D


A good way of avoiding the question asked to you by ejb, eh LANDROVER ROGER??

ejb wrote:LANDROVER ROGER, can I just ask; since you appear to find windmills so pleasing, would you like a 100 metre high windmill in your back garden, so that you had no choice but to look at it and hear it all day every day instead of for just 2 weeks when you are on holiday?
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby LANDROVER ROGER » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:04 am

Not avoiding anything.Just letting other members air their views.It is a forum after all.I am sick to death of this post being hi-jacked.The original post asked about the effect on TOURISM.Got it yet?
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby north beachmore » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:08 pm

Well why are you being confrontational "Landrover Roger". Talk about the issues... At present this small, very small peninsula is host to 3 wind farms. The question about turbines or tourism is should we allow the continuous ruination of our countryside for the benefit of a few individuals or corporations to make vast profits via subsidies?
Well excuse my french, but bollocks to that! I like where we have chosen to live. That is why we have chosen to live here. If the industrial or populated centres want wind energy, if they think that is the way to go then they can have it. Build the things in Bruntsfield Links in Edinburgh, Build them in Glasgow Green or Queens Park or Pollock Park. Not a bloody chance that's going to happen.... the city residents, the mass consumers would never allow it. But, if you choose to live in the country in a way that has minimal impact either on energy or the environment, you are going to be shafted.
I am sick of it.
The rural landscape in Scotland is what it is renowned for, not bloody wind turbines......
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby tarmmaker » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:41 pm

north beachmore wrote:According to planning application details, the distance to the nearest residential dwelling at North Beachmore is 627mt. So it may not be the back garden but it is certainly in our presence!!!

The proposed 125m tall Creggan windfarm in Glenbarr will be 435m from the nearest dwelling. So nerr!
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby mankind » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:52 am

tarmmaker wrote:
north beachmore wrote:According to planning application details, the distance to the nearest residential dwelling at North Beachmore is 627mt. So it may not be the back garden but it is certainly in our presence!!!

The proposed 125m tall Creggan windfarm in Glenbarr will be 435m from the nearest dwelling. So nerr!

It is therefore utterly ridiculous and totally unacceptable that it should be proposed to site one so close to a dwelling. We must fight to protect our beautiful homeland from this awful threat.
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby A15 NMA » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:26 pm

Snippet from this weeks media.....

FYI

**Tourism Body Rejects Wind Farm Concerns**

The Scottish Tourism Alliance's Stephen Leckie says there is little evidence that wind farms deter tourists. Leckie was giving evidence to the economy committee at Holyrood as part of the latter's study of renewable energy goals imposed by the Scottish government. He told MEPs that claims tourism is adversely impacted by wind farms are founded on conjecture, hysteria and emotion. :<>
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby argylltourist » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:27 pm

A15 NMA

Unfotunately, no new evidence was put forward. So it appears it's Mr Leckie's opinion...nothing more.

At the moment, no-one seems keen to initiate any real research, until then all we have is opinion.
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby EMDEE » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:11 am

A15 NMA wrote:Snippet from this weeks media.....

FYI

**Tourism Body Rejects Wind Farm Concerns**

The Scottish Tourism Alliance's Stephen Leckie says there is little evidence that wind farms deter tourists. Leckie was giving evidence to the economy committee at Holyrood as part of the latter's study of renewable energy goals imposed by the Scottish government. He told MEPs that claims tourism is adversely impacted by wind farms are founded on conjecture, hysteria and emotion. :<>


A really objective opinion. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby jingleman » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:47 am

Definitely not tourism! Minimum wages, bad terms and conditions of employment for four, maybe six months of the year if you're lucky, tweeking your forelock to arrogant, selfish, ingrates, busier roads full of crawling campervans and caravans. I'd much rather have turbines, especially if they were manufactured here in Kintyre. However, single turbine developments should not be allowed. Keep developments to a minimum of ten turbines and only allow less than that number if it is a community project as in Gigha. A recent survey has shown that most of the objectors to turbines are 40+ whilst most 16 to 24 year olds are in favour of wind farms. Overall, 70% of the population of Scotland is in favour of renewable energy, including wind. There was an outcry back in the fifties when pylons were being erected as part of the hydro expansion in Scotland. The doomsayers were warning of the "march of the pylons" destroying the natural beauty of the landscape. For those under 60 I would ask the question "how often do you notice pylons in the landscape?" Very rarely I would guess. And why would this be? Because you have lived most of your life with them already in place. They have always been part of your landscape and there doesn't appear to have been a negative effect on tourism either. Turbines will be the same in twenty years from now to those currently under 10. By then most of the grumpy old bampots, nimbys, the anti change lobby and most of the other assorted protestors will be gone. And, just while I'm ranting, the landscape is anything but natural. Any natural landscape started to disappear 7,000 years ago with the arrival of the first farmers in Scotland. The contours may be mostly natural but the land usage is anything but! It's industrialised farming and forestry on a grand scale. So, pray tell, what's the difference between industrial agriculture/forestry and industrial electricity generation?
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby argylltourist » Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:35 pm

Again someone quoting suspect surveys!

Jingleman, the survey you selected to quote from was from people who lived in urban areas and also very small portion of

these were from Scotland! If surveys are to be conclusive, they must be seen to be inclusive and fair.

Communities are being overwhelmed. That is one of the biggest issues raised by Aberdeenshire council right now.

And as for pylons......look around and tell me how many are are outwith the towns and villages. I venture you'll find few.

Yes, community turbines are to be admired.......just view the ones we have already in Kintyre as community ones!!!
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Re: Turbines or Tourism?

Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:08 pm

Surely most tourists who visit Scotland will reside in urban areas which are not in Scotland? :roll:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-17827490
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