Immigration

[mary,queen of everything]

Good point Bobbie, did you know that if you are one of the non insured but make too much money for assistance Folks, you can be very sucessful at driving down the cost of health care by finding out what medicare pays for a particular procedure, then discussing this with the financial people at the hopital, nine times out of ten they will agree to that payment.

[Annie]

Good point! You can barter them down, so to speak!

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I appreciate that suggestion. I'll try that next time.

It is my opinion that medical costs in the US have been driven up artificially by insurance companies to make it impossible for people to get decent medical care without insurance. If there were no insurance companies and everyone paid out of pocket, I would bet costs would come tumbling down to something the average person could afford. And think how much the government could save in providing health care to the average person based on truly reasonable costs and not prices the middle man, luigi the thumb breaker.. errr.. I mean.. the insurance companies have set.

And speaking of all this, and this is really a separate thread, but is the free health care provided by the government in the UK sufficient and acceptable to most?

[Sweltered]

I have never understood why there is so much discrepency between procedures. The same number of people working for the same amount of time using the same type of equipment in the same operating theater. I'm not counting after care, just the operation. $5000 for the removal of a kidney and $1100 for the removal of an appendix. The kidney op sounds more complex but it takes just about the same time.

[bubbly jock]

medical costs in the US .......insurance companies .............

operating theater. ....... $5000 for the removal of a kidney and $1100 for the removal of ....

Woke up to read this and thought for a minute I had been transported to the Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free but no I am still in the land of the Scots.

Sweltered you say theater, I say theatre?

bubbly

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I apologize for that, bubbly . I was aware of that and was hoping more people from the Campbeltown area would jump in and give open opinions about local immigration. Was very interesting to me to hear the opinions of ex-Campbeltonians about U.S. immigration, I must admit. I'll refrain from spewing (maybe.. ) (Okay, well I'll try.)

[bubbly jock]

I apologize for that, bubbly . . I'll refrain from spewing (maybe.. ) (Okay, well I'll try.)

Och I know you will hen It's jeest such an emotive subject, I find it a wee bit hard tae follow.

I see Queen Merry and Honolulu Annie have got their tales on fire over it. Probably living in all that sun that's done it for them. Too much time tae think. They want tae be back here taking in coal, splitting logs and knitting Balaclavas instead of wondering whether tae wear shorts or the grass skirt for the day.

bubbly

ps When do you sleep??

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Clay lies still, but blood's a rover;
Breath's a ware that will not keep.
Up, lad: when the journey's over
There'll be time enough to sleep.

-- A. E. Housman

[mary,queen of everything]

yeah we'll all be a lang time deed

[bubbly jock]

Aye Merry but you'll meet your maker quicker according to the following. As in all things, moderation hen, moderation.

I'll jeest carry on with the head under the wing every night for the usual eight hours.

bubbly


A new study has found that short bouts of sleep over a prolonged time period could contribute to hypertension. Researchers found that people who slept for only short durations raised their average 24-hour blood pressure and heart rate.

Although sleep disorders have previously been linked to cardiovascular disease, it was not clear whether sleep deprivation increased the risk of hypertension in those who did not suffer from such disorders.

According to studies, those in the 32-59 age bracket increased the risk of hypertension by 210 percent when they slept for less than six hours a night, even after taking obesity and diabetes adjustments into account.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I usually get 6 to 7 hours. And fortunately enough I have one of those jobs where, if I get tired I can just go take a nap. Its amazing what 20 minutes will do.

[mary,queen of everything]

I do believe in moderation in most forms. I do NOT belive in medical studies in any form. A person could spiral into insanity reading all the conflicting studies.

[A Horse called Juan Face]

what time is it in san antonio?

[mary,queen of everything]

daytime

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Six hours behind you, 11:44 a.m. right now.