Immigration

[Annie]

All I was saying is that it is in our Wee Toonie natures to eventually be drawn back home! It is there in all of us, inherent and just waiting to be freed! No matter how far we roam! It is a quiet, understood and acknowledged thing that is common to all of us born and bred in Campbeltown!

As anyone (any Toonie, that is), there is no place like it in all the world!

[Bobbie En Tejas]

You had named your post "Down, Bobbie, Down!" Couldn't think of any other reason you would have put that.

I understand what you are saying, some of us feel that and we aren't even from there

[Annie]

So how did you end up being an adopted Toonie "immigrant" so to speak, and to get back to your original topic??

[Bobbie En Tejas]

The original topic was my question about people from eastern europe and other places who don't speak the language and came to settle in Campbeltown. I was just curious about how they were accepted, and, considering the fact that Campbeltown has only so much housing, was wondering about their housing, jobs, etc. Was also wondering if people were worried about a loss of their heritage and lands due to incomers or if they welcomed incomers as a boost to the economy and the life of the area.

If people wanted to talk about it, it would have been the discussion, so I'm going to go sit over on House of Fun and wait for Dorian to put some fun quiz and unwind my brain

[Malky]

Bobbie,

Can. Open. Worms everywhere

Malky

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Bobbie,

Can. Open. Worms everywhere

Malky

Worms. Gathered. Top of can. Welded.

[Malky]

Top of can. Welded.

We'll see.

Malky

[Bobbie En Tejas]

[Surfbored]

Lets bomb Eastern Europe ... that'll show them !!!!!

On the other hand these new Polish Policemen might come and take me away .....................

[Annie]

I received this in an e-mail today, and thought I would share it with y'all!


Teddy had it so right! Not Kennedy, but Roosevelt!

Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

[Annie]

I think Malky is right Bobbie, you missed a couple of wiggly worms - hehehe!

LOL!!!!!!!!

[Surfbored]

Ermmm .... as a veteran of many a good debate with our friends across the pond ......

..... don't you think the old "liberty,freedom,justice for all" ,"DEMOCRACY", hand on heart "Hail to the Chief", "home of the brave", "home of the free" thing is getting a bit transparent? Wake up !!! Smell the B$.

If America (and being American) is so great, why do so many Americans wallow in their (old world) anscestral heritage?

Personally, I don't need a flag in the corner (and everywhere else) or swear an oath to be proud of what I am.

Anyway .... thankfully most Americans are very nice people

...but so were the Germans.

[Annie]

Point taken there surfbored! LOL!!!!!!!

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Ermmm .... as a veteran of many a good debate with our friends across the pond ......

..... don't you think the old "liberty,freedom,justice for all" ,"DEMOCRACY", hand on heart "Hail to the Chief", "home of the brave", "home of the free" thing is getting a bit transparent? Wake up !!! Smell the B$.

If America (and being American) is so great, why do so many Americans wallow in their (old world) anscestral heritage?

Personally, I don't need a flag in the corner (and everywhere else) or swear an oath to be proud of what I am.

Anyway .... thankfully most Americans are very nice people

...but so were the Germans.

First, Americans are pretty proud of their heritage, where they are and where they came from. Who I am has much to do with the culture of my parents and my ancestors, what they brought to me. Would you be any less scottish if you lived in America? I think not. Will sweltered be expected to give up his kilt, or Annie be any less Scottish. I think not. Should their children be expected not to be proud of the stock they came from?

When one moves out from the family, is he any less connected to that family? Is a brother no longer a brother, or cousins any less cousins? I don't agree with that. I love the diversity. As long as done without hatefulness, when people are proud of their heritage and keep it alive, their music, their art, their dance, we all learn and benefit. Sometimes the old traditions are good, so why expect people to throw that away just because they live in America? Its not a matter of wallowing.

Also, the only time I swore the oath was when I went into the military. I think your military probably requires an oath of some kind also.

[bubbly jock]

in the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith..... assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. ...There can be no divided allegiance here.

The majority of English who arrive to live here have a problem with the above.

Some of them don't mean to but they change the place none the less. I don't think they mean to change the culture but it happens anyway just by their presence.

I like my town and it's uniqueness because of its geography but it is changing. Most local committees are now made up of incomers and soon learn how to inflict their will whether the locals want it or not.

There are people who come to the area and just seem to fit in and be involved and not overpowering but I'm afraid they are in the minority.

For example it is the nature of the English to be on the whole arrogant. They are a very small part of a very small island and are slowly losing their identity. Let's hang on to ours.

bubbly