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Jeez, how did the world survive before CCTV was invented?

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Men in long trenchcoats, hats and sunglasses, reading a newspaper on the corner...

[jdcarra]

Willie D wrote

Perhaps with all the money being spent some 24hr CCTV would deter them - but I doubt it!

This was suggested at the last Mid-Argyll, Kintyre & Islay Area Committee meeting. Councillor Kelly suggested that the camera at the Royal be moved to cover the new building. IMHO this would only cover the seaward side and not the expanse of glass and the Titanic's funnels that are facing the town that are more likely to be vulnerable to vandalism.

oorly

It was also raised by Councillor Kelly at the last meeting of Kintyre Crime Prevention Panel who own and maintain the CCTV system in Campbeltown, asking if we could erect another camera or move the one at the Royal Hotel to take in the back road. The Royal camera is on a curved corner so that would be impossible. The building has no CCTV system and it would be costly for KCPP to fund another camera on their own.

We have a meeting (KCPP) this Thursday evening coming and this will be on the agenda for discussion from the last meeting. Why CCTV was not included in the costing of the building in the first place beats me, three months or less before it opens and questions being asked on its security.

A home system camera or cameras is no comparison to CCTV which cost about £20,000 each and is monitered by personal 24/7. Do you mean to have security guards on duty 24/7 to moniter these cameras? More expense!

[take_a_pop]

It was also raised by Councillor Kelly at the last meeting of Kintyre Crime Prevention Panel who own and maintain the CCTV system in Campbeltown, asking if we could erect another camera or move the one at the Royal Hotel to take in the back road. The Royal camera is on a curved corner so that would be impossible. The building has no CCTV system and it would be costly for KCPP to fund another camera on their own.

Jd, ur ye tryin tae cofuse me in ma auld age ? whit othur types oh corners dae yeh get apart fae a curved wans.

[jdcarra]

It was also raised by Councillor Kelly at the last meeting of Kintyre Crime Prevention Panel who own and maintain the CCTV system in Campbeltown, asking if we could erect another camera or move the one at the Royal Hotel to take in the back road. The Royal camera is on a curved corner so that would be impossible. The building has no CCTV system and it would be costly for KCPP to fund another camera on their own.

Jd, ur ye tryin tae cofuse me in ma auld age ? whit othur types oh corners dae yeh get apart fae a curved wans.

I Pop, gud job yur on here tae keep us ah on oor toes, i thats a new wan, curved corner.

[Annie]

An' Auld Pop knows a few things aboot windaes tae! He's is quite the architek!

[Machrihanish]

The building has no CCTV system and it would be costly for KCPP to fund another camera on their own.

I find it hard to believe that in this day and age the building does not have or will not have it's own internal camera security system. With the price of these systems dropping fast it is silly not to design it into the build !!
I think I will change careers and become a CCTV installer if they are getting £20,000 for it in Campbeltown
A simple digital recording system doesn't have to be that expensive and recorded images/clips would be enough evidence to support police in catching any barstewards who try spoil things for everyone else!
Maybe time for a few coffee mornings to raise funds for this ? My local pool was funded by the lottery and is staffed mainly by volunteers, an entirely 'community' based project which seems to work very well.
Anyway, that's my two penneth worth

[jdcarra]

The building has no CCTV system and it would be costly for KCPP to fund another camera on their own.

I find it hard to believe that in this day and age the building does not have or will not have it's own internal camera security system. With the price of these systems dropping fast it is silly not to design it into the build !!
I think I will change careers and become a CCTV installer if they are getting £20,000 for it in Campbeltown
A simple digital recording system doesn't have to be that expensive and recorded images/clips would be enough evidence to support police in catching any barstewards who try spoil things for everyone else!
Maybe time for a few coffee mornings to raise funds for this ? My local pool was funded by the lottery and is staffed mainly by volunteers, an entirely 'community' based project which seems to work very well.
Anyway, that's my two penneth worth

Machrihanish

We have been discussing an external CCTV system which is not in place at this time, and news from a good source is that the building has a very good internal security/safety CCTV system fitted.

The Campbeltown cameras are not digital received, but cabled around the town buildings which in its self is expensive. The approx quoted £20,000 covers the best of camera, installation and cable line from camera position to Campbeltown Police Station.

[Machrihanish]

Thanks for that JD, maybe a camera with a view out the back could be added to the internal system?

Is the town station manned 24/7 then ? Where I am your not allowed to commit crimes outside of 09:00 - 17:00 as that's the only time you will find anyone at the station

I know we seem to be doing this to death but I think it is an important facility for the town and should be protected !
All the best

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I think you are all missing the point.

It's not an unknown fact that the average age in Campbeltown is rising ie. it's a 'greying' population.

And sometimes it shows !!!!

ffs. instead of spending money on cameras and toys for the boys, wouldn't it make more sense to spend that money on things for the young people in the town to do of an evening.

The devil makes work for idle hands as they say. And surely the vandalism or whatever you are all concerned about is directly linked to that.

Or have I missed the point ?

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..... or for that matter, things for tourists to do !!!!!!

(legal disclaimer - I am in no way implying that bored tourists are responsible for any acts of vandalism is Campbeltown)

[Malky]

wouldn't it make more sense to spend that money on things for the young people in the town to do of an evening.

Total agreement from me

Malky

[Ross]

Good point, the programme on the telly the other night about the problems with youth violence and misconduct(on c4 i think) basically came down to the same conclusion, give the kids something to do instead of hang around on street corners get board and get into trouble

[jdcarra]

wouldn't it make more sense to spend that money on things for the young people in the town to do of an evening.

Total agreement from me

Malky

Well Surfboard, the town today has not changed much since i was a youth (now one of the greying population) and in those days we did not have camera's and toy's for the boy's, but we got through our teenage years with the same now as was then, and with less b*ggerment probably.

Well Malky, as in agreement, what ideas do you have for the young people?

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Does one CCTV camera cost 20 grand? ... good god !!!

I think I must be going nuts, 20 grand buys a lot of ideas (and thats just one camera allegedly) ... and people are talking away as if it's a perfectly reasonable allocation of funds.

I know George Orwell wrote 1984 on Jura. Wonder what he'd have made of it all?