Photos of the Aqualibrium

[Willie D]

The devil makes work for idle hands as they say. And surely the vandalism or whatever you are all concerned about is directly linked to that.

Have to agree with JD. We grew up without all the gizmos, gadgets etc that kids have today & none of us ever felt the need to vandalise anything or be abusive to people. Come to think of it, we'd never have been allowed to wander the streets 'til all hours, to get up to no good in the first place.

[Surfbored]

Society has changed in general
A small place like Campbeltown, you notice the changes more I guess.

All this technology and people are more isolated (socially) than at any point in history.

Communal community things have really suffered. A 40 a side game of football down the park replaced by FIFA 2006 on the pc, PS2 or X-box (not that you can get near a park for all the paedophiles and bad people that supposedly lurk there). PC's in general (people think nothing of chatting to people on the other side of the world but don't speak to their neighbours). Picture house (now its a night in with a DVD (or a download)or SKY). Pubs (now its a night in with a bottle of choice from the Supermarket or the off licence). Church (does anyone go these days? Used to be a great thing in days gone by if only to meet people and get the gossip)(nobody really gets married now, single parent families are the norm (lack of a stable male role model)), migration of people out (brain drain), migration of people in (you don't really know who you've got these days) ..you can go on and on here about reasons for society breaking down.

Also, people are more ME ME ME NOW NOW NOW and it leads to all sorts of things like road rage, rage in general,(crap tv like Jerry Springer,Trisha etc etc .... I want to talk about ME ME ME), parents more interested in themselves and their own lives and turning a blind eye to their kids (apparently apprentice-adults are in vogue as opposed to children), drugs, substance abuse in general (again VERY self-centred)...... jeez its an endless list ... ARGHHH ...maybe we need a few thousand of these cameras right enough !!!!

Having said all that, I still think 20 grand for a camera is overkill, and I still believe that prevention is better than cure, both of which are better than voyeurism.

[jdcarra]

It's funny how one thing leads to another.

We seem to have deviated from the original topic "Photo's of the Aqualibrium" so perhaps someone should, or the mods, open up a further two topic's which someone is persistent on going on about (there choice), CCTV the £20,000 cost and things for the young people of the town which i think was tried some years back with a youth cafe/meeting point and possibly some other activities.

Comment's made, i'll stick to photos of the Aquilibrium and saw yesterday the trees that have been planted the memorial side of the building and the landscaping coming on fine.

[Surfbored]

Going off topic is fun !!!! It's a Billy Connolly thing (although he's funny)

I'd be interested to see any photos (with landscaping) as the pool is for want of a better word, UGLY.

How and ever, maybe a tree or two might help.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

..... or for that matter, things for tourists to do !!!!!!

(legal disclaimer - I am in no way implying that bored tourists are responsible for any acts of vandalism is Campbeltown)

lol Surfbored.

[Willie D]

For £20 grand I'd be quite a happy to sit at my window keeping an eye on the place.

'Tho A & B will have to fork out for someone in John Street to cover the other side - cause I ain't going halfers

[Bobbie En Tejas]

That's funny Willie. I hope they take you up on it. If they can't find someone to watch the other side, I'll immigrate. For a few extra pounds you could offer to shout out the window at culprits, something the camera can't do. Sounds to me that they would be getting a great bargain!

[Machrihanish]

wouldn't it make more sense to spend that money on things for the young people in the town to do of an evening.

Total agreement from me

Malky

Well Surfboard, the town today has not changed much since i was a youth (now one of the greying population) and in those days we did not have camera's and toy's for the boy's, but we got through our teenage years with the same now as was then, and with less b*ggerment probably.

Well Malky, as in agreement, what ideas do you have for the young people?

Same here JD, I always managed to find something to do in the town, never got bored once !! I believe the same facilities are still available, sailing club, cadets etc.
Your always going to get an element who will vandalise things...not out of boredom but badness !!
Sad but true and the CCTV just helps to stop it in some cases or catch them thats all.

[Malky]

Sad but true and the CCTV just helps to stop it in some cases or catch them thats all.

I thought the CCTV was installed to stop the adults who were coming out the pubs from causing damage, fighting etc. Of course I could be wrong (I frequently am) as I don't live in Campbeltown. I'm getting damn grey myself (gotta get the hair dye out ) but I still think that spending 20 grand on a camera is not an effective use of funds.

JD, a lot of the time the kids just want to chat - they don't always want organised events. Perhaps somewhere for them to meet up would be appropriate. When you think about it, that's generally what adults do when they meet up. They have pubs to go to, where they can have a laugh and enjoy the craic. Perhaps the kids are no different? They don't have anything like that to meet in, so are left with wandering around the streets or standing at the door of Woolworths (a bit of shelter from the rain there) etc etc.

Up here in Tayinloan, the local publican in the hotel allows the local kids into part of the hotel. The kids are allowed to buy soft drinks and crisps at the bar and are allowed to use the pool table (though must give it up if an adult wants to use it). As the police objected to this initially, the owner installed 2 CCTV cameras, one in the room the kids sit in and the other in the pool room. The screens are above the bar. The kids now have a warm, safe place to sit and chat and there is virtually no vandalism in the village. Previously the kids gathered at the village hall doorway, left lots of rubbish about and TBH, were a bloody nuisance. One forward looking person has changed all that. Now, I am quite happy to let my girls (aged 14 and 16) go along to the village coz I know where they are, know they are safe and know they are not going to be causing trouble.

Finally, why should it be me that has ideas for the young people? Why don't you ask them? With a little guidance and help, I'm sure they would have plenty of ideas themselves.

Malky

[Surfbored]

That's a shame !!!! Poor Malky getting put under the spotlight to come up with ideas.

I suggest a new committee. Kids (or Kintyre) Evenings Entertainment Community Help.

K.E.E.C.H.

It's a winner !!!!!

[jdcarra]

Sad but true and the CCTV just helps to stop it in some cases or catch them thats all.

I thought the CCTV was installed to stop the adults who were coming out the pubs from causing damage, fighting etc. Of course I could be wrong (I frequently am) as I don't live in Campbeltown. I'm getting damn grey myself (gotta get the hair dye out ) but I still think that spending 20 grand on a camera is not an effective use of funds.

JD, a lot of the time the kids just want to chat - they don't always want organised events. Perhaps somewhere for them to meet up would be appropriate. When you think about it, that's generally what adults do when they meet up. They have pubs to go to, where they can have a laugh and enjoy the craic. Perhaps the kids are no different? They don't have anything like that to meet in, so are left with wandering around the streets or standing at the door of Woolworths (a bit of shelter from the rain there) etc etc.

Up here in Tayinloan, the local publican in the hotel allows the local kids into part of the hotel. The kids are allowed to buy soft drinks and crisps at the bar and are allowed to use the pool table (though must give it up if an adult wants to use it). As the police objected to this initially, the owner installed 2 CCTV cameras, one in the room the kids sit in and the other in the pool room. The screens are above the bar. The kids now have a warm, safe place to sit and chat and there is virtually no vandalism in the village. Previously the kids gathered at the village hall doorway, left lots of rubbish about and TBH, were a bloody nuisance. One forward looking person has changed all that. Now, I am quite happy to let my girls (aged 14 and 16) go along to the village coz I know where they are, know they are safe and know they are not going to be causing trouble.

Finally, why should it be me that has ideas for the young people? Why don't you ask them? With a little guidance and help, I'm sure they would have plenty of ideas themselves.

Malky

You said it Malky

I thought the CCTV was installed to stop the adults who were coming out the pubs from causing damage, fighting etc. Of course I could be wrong (I frequently am) as I don't live in Campbeltown.

but it could also be there for to stop the teenagers also.

but I still think that spending 20 grand on a camera is not an effective use of funds.

And who said we were going to spend £20,000 on a camera? Not an effective use of funds!!!!!!! I think a vast majority of the population of the town would disagree with you given the security and safety it brings to all.

JD, a lot of the time the kids just want to chat - they don't always want organised events. Perhaps somewhere for them to meet up would be appropriate. When you think about it, that's generally what adults do when they meet up. They have pubs to go to, where they can have a laugh and enjoy the craic. Perhaps the kids are no different? They don't have anything like that to meet in, so are left with wandering around the streets or standing at the door of Woolworths (a bit of shelter from the rain there) etc etc.

You don't need to remind me of things for the youngsters to do to occupy their time, i live in a village also, and was a member and chairman of EKCC Community Council for years and knew all the problems associated with the younger generation, but back to the town, as explained in my previous posting the youngsters had a meeting place in the youth cafe which you may not have know about.

Finally, why should it be me that has ideas for the young people? Why don't you ask them? With a little guidance and help, I'm sure they would have plenty of ideas themselves.

As mentioned in my previous posting, open a new topic for the young people if any are on this forum who may be interested in giving their views.

[Annie]

I second the vote for the KEECH committee!!!!!!!!

[jane59]

Why did the youth cafe close ?

[petewick]

Why did the youth cafe close ?

The usual: nae money

[Machrihanish]

Well hopefully the Councillors who read this site will take note and maybe do something !!
When I was a lad (no comments please) the Locarno was open in the evenings until 9 or 10 I think. If we hung around Woolies (which we often did after going to the pictures) waiting for a bus or to be collected the police would keep an eye on us and sometimes move us on. Maybe we just need to see a few more bobbies on the beat ! It's a small town and I remember the police knew all our names and we knew theirs.... <sigh> getting nostalgic now