Two Weeks in Kintyre

[Bruce]

No ionnsaigh, I do not see Poverty o the People as anything other than a reality that I know way too much about... th difference being I do not expect anyone other than myself to resolve this problem for me! Its your vision of the Workers Republic Scotland that I can't be bothered with - and so what if I am the first to post a negative comment in this topic? Last time I loved my neighbour her husband threatened to kill me - so don't expect that from me... and also don't expect me to subscribe to your crackpot ideas either!

John S, the ideology being advanced by the muppet suggests to me that he should be locked up (again!) but this time for his own good... I doubt even the worst of the extreme would subscribe to his ideas either!

[ionnsaigh]

No ionnsaigh, I do not see Poverty o the People as anything other than a reality that I know way too much about... th difference being I do not expect anyone other than myself to resolve this problem for me! Its your vision of the Workers Republic Scotland that I can't be bothered with - and so what if I am the first to post a negative comment in this topic? Last time I loved my neighbour her husband threatened to kill me - so don't expect that from me... and also don't expect me to subscribe to your crackpot ideas either!

John S, the ideology being advanced by the muppet suggests to me that he should be locked up (again!) but this time for his own good... I doubt even the worst of the extreme would subscribe to his ideas either!

Bruce- will your personality not allow for broad open discussion, without you attempting to insult the sincere views held by others that you happen to disagree with. As for the love thy neighbour jibe this scrapes the bottom of an empty barrel

[Bruce]

Broad open discussion? Yea I can certainly allow that!

The sincere views held by others? In general that isn't a problem... unless it involves some sort of anarchy taking over this country which you suggested before - or was that for everywhere apart from Kintyre?

[ionnsaigh]

And another thing. Your stay in the White Hart Crest Hotel. I would have thought a man of your impeccable socialist credentials would have baulked at paying to the shareholders of a multinational empire like Intercontinental hotels group. On Thursday 2 March 2006 the company announced its intention to return £500 million to Shareholders by way of a Special Dividend.

What was wrong with the Kintyre wee wumans b&b? Or are you saving your morals for after the revolution.

What nae Public apology for the failed attempt at character assassination, no big enough for that- Och well just goes tae show
ye.

[John S]

So what would you do with Scotland’s capitalist, monarchist bourgeois come the revolution comrade Mick? I'd suggest that what you are peddling is a sham. Where in the world past or present would you compare your ideal Scottish peoples republic too? Give us a good example?

I would do away with it- simple as that. Tom Paine " kill the king- leave the Man" If you love Scotland then you must love its People, you must attempt to recognise the true nature of poverty - which is difficult if you've never experienced it. An artist may be able to paint an apple- however if they have never touched taste or smelled the apple in essence they don't really know the apple. If to remove Poverty from your People is a sham- then I plead guilty. The existence of a Monarchy in a Democracy is contradictory in terms of Democratic principles. The only true type of Democracy would be a Republic based on the equal distribution of wealth. Now that seems fair to me. It is not in the interest to the development of all Peoples in all lands to continue with a system that divides and reduces, and ultimately encourages a them against us mentality in order to survive.
Why should we the Scottish People be content - when a third of us have little in the way of life, other than daily struggle in a bleak housing scheme in Edinburgh or Glasgow or for that matter Campbeltown. People will do everything they Humanly can to hide Poverty as they see it as some form of personal failing. As far as comparing past and present, with other countries this is
entirely relative to Scotland- then I would compare my Workers Republic Scotland to the savagery of Poverty that currently inflicts our dear People.

Hi Mick, You answer my questions like the politicians you despise. Come on now? Where in the world past or present would you compare your ideal Scottish Peoples Republic to? China? Korea perhaps?

[John S]

And another thing. Your stay in the White Hart Crest Hotel. I would have thought a man of your impeccable socialist credentials would have baulked at paying to the shareholders of a multinational empire like Intercontinental hotels group. On Thursday 2 March 2006 the company announced its intention to return £500 million to Shareholders by way of a Special Dividend.

What was wrong with the Kintyre wee wumans b&b? Or are you saving your morals for after the revolution.

What nae Public apology for the failed attempt at character assassination, no big enough for that- Och well just goes tae show
ye.

We would also take this opportunity in thanking the Staff at the White Hart. thanks from Fiona and Mick.

I'll let the people decide for themselves, mick.

[The Hitman]

Wow......you guys have a lot of time on your hands.

Just flicking through the forum and was amazed that how a positive letter about Campbeltown has progressed into an arguement.

I for one am willing to take any positives for Campbeltown from visitors END OF.

But then again we could digress and get into a big fankle of issues instead of just saying THANKS, HASTE YE BACK!

[Bruce]

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[John S]

Everyone has the right to air their views Bruce, and I dare say we can all get over excited when challenged. Mick's positive comments about Campbeltown are very much welcome. Mick and Fiona would I'm sure be welcome back anytime. I think what is clear from some of the exchanges we have had is the difference between rural and urban life. People here often have to pull together irrespective of their differences for the benefit of the community as a whole. In the City your community is more of your choosing, you can easily shun different groups of people and surround yourself with like-minded friends, your choice is greater. But community becomes ethereal rather than streets and houses resulting in crime and suspicion of strangers.

This I think accounts for the more accepting, welcoming and safer nature of rural communities.

[The Hitman]

I am merely pointing out that if the original posting was read in the manner I read it in, (that's a good wee comment about the town and it's people). Then this whole argument would not have ensued and any guest reading this thread would only come away with a good impression of the Town.

Surely good press is what this town is needing.

I have not read too much into your debate as the issues and politics behind some of the points that are made are irrelevant to the initial statement.

I am not taking sides in any argument, this is just an observation from the outside looking in.

As far as I am concerned good press for Campbeltown is always welcome.

[SmithD]

I think we should just have a thread for general political chit chat! As all threads end the same way at the moment on here!

[John S]

What about a politics forum then the mods can move any threads that get over political? It is part of live though and is reflected in most of the news and issues posts.

[the ringmaster]

I speak as someone born and bred in campbeltown and if im being honest i would say we are a bigoted, anti english town which can be a scary place for strangers or as most call them white settlers but lets be honest is that really that bad ?
Look at the court pages in the campbeltown courier most cases are crimes commited by junkies or alcholics who have landed on our town from god knows where, so please forgive me if I don't welcome all these misunderstood souls with open arms.

Better the devil you know........

[Christian]

I can understand that! We have 10000 people in Beek en Donk, and not one is homeless. The homeless woman who begs for money at the supermarket comes from somewhere else. Very annoying I think...

[bakbjerg]

You appreciated how you found us and not once did you ask what we can do for you if you decide to relocate.

So you're saying that no one should ask questions about the area before deciding to move? The most recent query I can think of is regarding schools - something that someone with kids will have to consider... or are you expecting them to do that after they move?

Thank you Bruce, I'm hit.

As a danish family with small children, considering to move to Kintyre is a very big descision. We have read the forum intense, and becomed more and more motivated by the answers ones get about this and that, especially replys around MC's post about the schools. And we're not junkies or alcholics, just an ordinary family bringing our own work to the area if ...

kind regards