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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:20 pm

Ville Valo wrote:Im not at all interested in people being exploited
ANIMALS ARE NOT FOR FOOD
If you are willing to kill a defenceless animal for food go ahead (Gordon Ramsay struggled and im sure there wld be many men and women the same!!) Otherwise - you are simply a coward, end of.


I'm not willing to kill defenseless animals for food. I let someone else do it.
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Postby badfish » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:25 pm

i could not watch that vid ,too much 4 me,makes me think twice
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:39 pm

Ville, do you think the diets of cavemen didn't consist of meat and fish, along with grasses, nuts and fruit? Rice and grains weren't cultivated until 10,000 years ago, oats 3000 years. What about people in the colder climates where fruit and vegetables would have to have certain seasons, if they could grow there at all? Seems meat is the most natural thing to eat when you think about it.
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Postby badfish » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:53 pm

missing the point bobbie,it factory mass farming nae wee coos wanerin aboot the feelds but in crates way a tube up there arse getin pumped wae there deed cusins wiz tht naw how mad coo cam aboot :?:
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:55 pm

good point...
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Postby badfish » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:11 pm

nae worries dudette :wink:
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Postby C.K.Y » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:22 pm

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:Ville, do you think the diets of cavemen didn't consist of meat and fish, along with grasses, nuts and fruit? Rice and grains weren't cultivated until 10,000 years ago, oats 3000 years. What about people in the colder climates where fruit and vegetables would have to have certain seasons, if they could grow there at all? Seems meat is the most natural thing to eat when you think about it.


I hear this all the time...you say CAVEMEN yes but dont you think we should have come a bit furthar than that in almost 2 million years? We are not designed to process the flesh of another creature.. the majority of health probems today can be accredited to a meat and dairy diet. The other argument that we are omniverous is also false... biologically speaking we are not ... Dogs are actually omnivores.. wild dogs will forage for roots and berries as well as kill for meat. you show me one civilised human being that gets excited about the smell of blood or gets hungry seeing roadkill and prove me wrong. How many of you could actually bring yourselves to go out into a field slit a cows throat watch it die slowly then eat it? I think someone who eats meat in this day and age and doesnt feel any kind of remorse for the habit (as thats what eating meat is) is a hypocrite. I am guilty myself although a strict vegetarian i still eat dairy products which fuels another profit over welfare indusrty. I dont see any difference when i see an act of cruelty to a dog or cat than i do a cow sheep or chicken. The most enlightened and intillectual people in history were all vegetarians ... socrates, Leonardo Da vince, Charles Darwin, Ghandi, Einstein, Robert Louis Stevenson to name a few/ Here are some quotes to think about

"I know, in my soul, that to eat a creature who is raised to be eaten, and who never has a chance to be a real being, is unhealthy. It's like...you're just eating misery. You're eating a bitter life."
~Alice Walker

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet".
-- Albert Einstein

"To become vegetarian is to step into the stream which leads to nirvana".
-- Buddha

"Truely man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men".
~Leonardo da Vinci
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Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:33 pm

meat tastes good
vegetables dont

roadkill isnt cooked

and i bet those people were all hungry
and if man is the king of beasts, which may be so, then beasts themselves are hardly innocent
do they not eat each other?

and also the majority of health problems are accredited to the fact that the meat we eat is mass-produced and therefore lacking in quality
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Postby Sweltered » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:19 pm

Chimpanzees eat flesh.

Buddha was familiar with the word vegetarian. Doubt it.
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Postby John S » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:51 pm

the majority of health probems today can be accredited to a meat and dairy diet.


Tobacco, Opium, Alcohol are all animal derivatives then ?
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Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:02 pm

John S wrote:
the majority of health probems today can be accredited to a meat and dairy diet.


Tobacco, Opium, Alcohol are all animal derivatives then ?


aye
i meant the dietary problems are accredited to the quality of the meat
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Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:41 pm

we are meant to eat meat, thats why it tastes nice
we're not meant to eat cardboard, polyfilla and wood because it doesnt taste nice

here endeth the lesson
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:24 pm

I don't know.. you can talk to plants and have them respond by growing better, and there are studies out to determine if plants feel pain. I think vegetarians ought to stop eating completely until the studies are finalized with proof one way or the other. :twisted:
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Postby £3.73 » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:34 pm

Human teeth are designed to eat meat.

end of .....

...get over yerself already
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