£25 billion on upgrading Trident - why?

[ionnsaigh]

Judge roy bean,

You raise a number of interesting points. In terms of relevance I will attempt to respond in objective manner.
I can agree that Scotland urgently requires a different approach to, what is after all our governance.
The Representative should have a clear agenda set by open council of the people they represent.
That the rep should be picked at random from a pool of interested citizens.
However the various points of view within that society would better be served with Five reps serving each area.
The chance of any civilised society to drastically cut defence budgets by rejection of weapons of mass destruction are high.


As for your last paragraph, are you trying to be funny- if you are then it doesn't work, not with me anyhow.

[bill]

You carry on Judge,99.9% of the people on here have a sense of humour and like a laugh.

Do'nt let the minority take over the asylum.

[Sweltered]

Judge roy bean,

You raise a number of interesting points. In terms of relevance I will attempt to respond in objective manner.
I can agree that Scotland urgently requires a different approach to, what is after all our governance.
The Representative should have a clear agenda set by open council of the people they represent.
That the rep should be picked at random from a pool of interested citizens.
However the various points of view within that society would better be served with Five reps serving each area.
The chance of any civilised society to drastically cut defence budgets by rejection of weapons of mass destruction are high.


As for your last paragraph, are you trying to be funny- if you are then it doesn't work, not with me anyhow.

Only problem with your theory is that you and your humanist pals would obviously be "interested citizens" . The phrase containing hell and handbasket springs to mind.

[Tom B]

Saw Jackie Baillie MSP for Dumbarton on newsnight scotland tonight, talking up the case for trident - mainly around saving 11,000 jobs in her constituency (at about £2 million per job - that sounds like good value) - and the party line of "who knows whats around the corner, therefore we have to be ready."

Its to be debated in Holyrood tomorrow apparently, but i'm still waiting to hear why we need trident - maybe I'll find out tomorrow. There doesn't seem to be any reason - apart from George/Tony think its a good idea - but aren't some of their previous forays into "trust us, we know what's best" questionable. ....anybody?

Can't we just pretend we've upgraded trident, and spend the money on something useful?! If we're never going to use it, who would know?

with 40,000 dying in africa every day from starvation & disease, its a crime of genocidal proportions that we're even considering wasting this money on nothing of value.

[jester and the fool]

SEASONS GREETINGS.PEACE BE WITH YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILIES.

BOBBIE EN TEJAS -MAY YOUR DAUGHTER BE KEPT SAFE.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Thank you, Jester. I truly appreciate that.

[jester and the fool]

"The release of Atom power has changed everything,except our way of thinking.......The solution to the problem lies in the heart of mankind.If only i had known,I should have become a watchmaker.

[jester and the fool]

Or perhaps
"The way to win a nuclear war is to make certain it never starts"

[Pete Reek]

At 4.25 PM on the 19th December someone wrote of his slant on Scottish goverment. The key point at which his suggestion should be kicked into touch was his proposed use of a "representative".

They have those same representatives in China that visit their designated areas and talk to the people through their own "representatives" in the towns and villages within the said area.

We could have a rep for Stewarton, Machrihanish, Drumlemble, Southend, Sound of Kintyre etc, etc. all reporting back to "boss cat" in Campbeltown. However, do the names S.N.P, Labour, Conservative or Liberal roll off the tongue quite as easily as Communist when describing this set up?
A further point is, we wouldn't be telling the reps what we wanted, they would be dictating to us what their lords and masters had decreed. A really gigantic step forward for Scotland.
I'm led to believe that China would welcome immigrants with a hammer and sickel stamped on their brows, and that we should assist them in every way in making a speedy departure from Britain.
Instead of GB stickers for their suitcases they could have GR--- "good riddance".

As previously stated by some other members, I would like to wish "A Merry Christmas" to all. Especially those away from home fighting for their countries. A safe return home in 2007 also.

[Sweltered]

well put peetreek.

There has been much said on here about the way the service personell are honoured over here in the US, the people who stand and applaude are genuinely appreciative, and the service personell from the Uk are always included.

I wish them all a safe and happy xmas & New Year

[general jack o'niell]

merry xmas and all that sweltered and family, just saw the hell in handbasket thing.

funny, i thought the same when the proposal to do away with school boards and replace it with parent councils or wotever they intend to call them, well since 99% think that edukation is the skools job they're not interested enough to get involved 0.5% would look to see what the expenses were like and if there was any money in it and 0.5% already are involved on school boards and PTA, they have the children and the school's interests at heart and volunteer.

i assume the original idea for this arguement would be the same, and the mouths with trousers would rather sit back and complain than get actively involved in anything, they probably don't even vote!!!!

only one problem with that wall to keep us in? theres a few that are going to end up on the wrong side!!!! this side!!! i'm talking bout the unsavoury kind who only moved here in the last few years, who after wrecking two housing areas which had been continually upgraded will now be housed in brand new builds, or have turned certain streets into, i'm struggling for a word here, ok shitholes!!!!

don't tut, you all know the type and you think the exact same as me when your stuck behind them in a queue in the supermarket or post office, with their trolley loaded with at least £100 worth of groceries and half of that drink, and at least three kids all pre-school age, manky bleach jobs and knock off sports wear.

i'm not being judgemental, just annoyed i didn't get that kalashnikov from santa, it's the same with court reports in the paper, the oft used term "campbeltown man" then a no mark you've never heard of, i've said enough, no damn it i haven't but thats all i am saying.

where can i find a national newspaper that will give me a page on a daily basis to vent my spleen? this place is way too constricting!!!!

[Beachcomber]

"The way to win a nuclear war is to make certain it never starts"

"I don't know what weapons World War Three will be fought with, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones." ~Albert Einstein~