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[Captain Codpiece]

I think the USA are the most generous people on earth but seem always to get stick for it somehow. Those that chastise them should remember that if it was not for USA then just 60 years ago we would have been in some mess.

This'll be the same generous USA that tied the UK into the lend/lease scheme that took us most of those sixty years to repay, yes?

[ionnsaigh]

Fae high up ooer glesga toon

The bliddy lifts no workin again, so we hif tae hike up wan flight, or doon wan tae get the even lift. In ma opinion it is easier tae walk doon, so its up tae the twenty second, oan the whi up, an doon tae the twentyith, oan the whi doon.
Wir new neighbours are settlin in no bad noo, even efter some dug shit wiz left at thur door, a think it's they othir wans acroos the landin, a caught them last week throuin some durty nappies oot the windae. Durty pigs.

The weans are cawed funny names Fatima an Mohamed, no sure wit the mae an dae are cauled. Some morons stuck up posters roon the scheme last night, bluddy BNP fascist piss, mae weans know awe aboot the facist scum.

Ave goat tae go doon tae the shoaps, we need anither caird fur the lecki, ave hardly any money left , O well we cannae day withoot the telly an the fire. Mrs Wilson said that it wis connels that sterted that fire, that killed they two wee weans last week. O the local gang noo me so am ok, a winnae like bein a stranger up here, no wit a mean.
Thats awe fae the red road gossup fur noo.

[bubbly jock]

I think the USA are the most generous people on earth

A friend of mine would dispute that statement Dunc. He thinks they are the meanest most miserable race followed closely by the English who don't even want tae pay for the meal never mind tip the waiter.

Mind you the Colonials gave us SPAM

bubbly.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I think the USA are the most generous people on earth but seem always to get stick for it somehow. Those that chastise them should remember that if it was not for USA then just 60 years ago we would have been in some mess.

This'll be the same generous USA that tied the UK into the lend/lease scheme that took us most of those sixty years to repay, yes?

No

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I think the USA are the most generous people on earth

A friend of mine would dispute that statement Dunc. He thinks they are the meanest most miserable race followed closely by the English who don't even want tae pay for the meal never mind tip the waiter.

Mind you the Colonials gave us SPAM

bubbly.

Seems your "friend" must seek out mean, miserable people.

Oh, and tell your friend that the people in the US are not "a race." Thank you.. keep the change.

[Friend of Dorothy]

Come on Ionnsaigh! The Red Road Chronicles.....? I have heard it all now

[ionnsaigh]

Bobbie, super- race.

[Dunc]

Well as you know we entered into the lend/lease agreement before America entered the war,both UK and USSR.The terms were all agreed but I don't think anyone would have been surprised if the terms were'nt met.If I can remember my history teacher said we were loaned just under $5 billion.
You could say it is nice to be here to pay it back!!.In fact the USSR did not pay all their's back and USA wrote it off.Indeed UK even paid some dosh for the surplus equipment that the USA had left after 1945.I don't think at that time "how to pay it back" was the top priority somehow.
At least we honoured our debt and we are still here.My old teacher always said the USSR did.nt need the lend/lease agreement as in 1945 Germany was being crushed in the East and it was a matter of time till they were beaten although it would have cost them many lives.The only thing USA was worried about was not the cash/equipment they gave USSR but in future it could be said they were arming a potential foe.
I think we possibly done quite well out of the deal.

Well off forum track now..(I must have paid attention in in History after all.Thank-you Mr.MacKerral)

Dunc

[Dunc]

If there was no Lend/Lease agreement then I would not be still knackered after visiting a crashed aircraft down the Mull supplied under the very agreement.

Dunc

[bubbly jock]

mean, miserable people... keep the change.

Bobbie

Lots of us have friends who are mean, even miserable but all their other characteristics make up for their reluctance to share their wealth.

Is it a case of the language differences and their interpretations getting in the way that has caused the above outburst. Are you on the "mean" as in in nasty?

A bit of confusion maybe? Like when we say "Gies a fag" that is quite acceptable but if you were to say "fag" on your side of the loch it could be seen as something else entirely.

"The race to the whitehouse" and then camera pans to the people of America waving banners ?? Easy mistake for my friend to make.

Thanks for the two bits. Not worth much at the moment with the rate of exchange.

bubbly

I wonder if the US would have entered into the Lend/Lease if they had known what was to happen 9 months later ? Speculation I know but worth a thought

[ionnsaigh]

Stalin would probably have liberated Paris and our PM would be driving about in the "state Lada".Short memories...

Dunc

Aye if only, Stalin recognised the imperialistic makeup of Britain, and Scotland's thirst, and the English denial to our right of self determination. We would have had an democratically elected President in a Workers Republic.
All energy costs would have been met by central government, travel would be free at point of delivery.
Scotland was considered an industrial country, advanced in contrast to more agrarian countries, in that we had an established industrial infrastructure.
All so called socialist parties( with labour firmly at the helm ) had what appears now- as being progressive and far reaching polices, that when juxtaposed with the petit bourgeois nonsense of the established Communist parties of today. The left had within its body, the recognition of class consciousness, and social justice. We would be producing our own cars, building and crewing our own ships. Education as in other Communist countries would be second to none, as with public housing. We would not have had high unemployment , crime rates going through the roof. The people of Scotland would not have had to suffer from chronic heath problems linked to a failing health service. None of our children would be in Iraq or Afghanistan. Of course the USA would have imposed sanctions, judging by history these would cause great harm and suffering to our people, without the assistance from fellow minded friends. As you pointed out Dunc we would have plenty of drink, be relatively well clothed and fed, happy and free . Aye if only. The mob that now claim to represent me as a worker, have shamefully swapped the colour of the flag from red to green. The intelligentsia of today have become bogged down with middle class progressives, who ultimately reject the true teachings of Marx and Engels, Lenin, Stalin and last- though not least -the great Mao. All hail the Workers Republic Scotland. or time will come.

[bubbly jock]

All hail the Workers Republic Scotland. our time will come.

I'm happy in my middle class shack and I don't want to be a worker. I prefer someone to do the work for me and you're just another fireside red sitting in a concrete jungle.

bubbly

[Sweltered]

Funny that the communist bloc collapsed coaz it wisnae working.

Communism can never work because mankind is inheritly greedy. There will always be those who want to be more equal than others. You will always have lazy people who do not contribute as much effort, and resentment that they get the same reward as the rest, its human nature. Communism may help those that can't help themselves, but it helps even more, that can't be arsed helping themselves.

Since you are always telling us you are a celt (whose traditional social structure is fuedal, not communist) and not British, with the ease of travel nowadays why have you never taken yourself off to live in a communist utopia, like Cuba (why is everyone trying to leave there bytheway?) Or North Korea, you could support Kim Jong Mentally Ill. Casto and Kim Jong Mentally Ill were elected too, and look at their countries. Of course the US led sanctions have played their part, but why are these two nations clinging on to a system that's failing when all the rest have given up as bad joke? How do these elected leaders stay in power after doing a piss poor job of running their coutries? If they were parents, they would be locked up for neglect.

I won't even start on Mugabe.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

There was no confusion.

[Big Bob]

What about the 20,000,000 people who disagreed with Stalin who were quietly removed from the scene?