Missing Toddler in Portugal

[general jack o'niell]

can i just apologies for that last posting of mine, another time, another place maybe, but not on this thread.

two weeks, i don't think i could go two days, i'm now at the stage where i want to physically strangle the culprits with my own bare hands, anything to ease the suffering of the parents.

so please, i know i'm as guilty as the next person, moreso than most but keep on thread here, anywere else is fair game in my book, but this thread is not.

[jester and the fool]

I feel for the parents as i have already said,and would not wish this on anyone else.They will live with the decision that they made to leave 3 kids alone,for a long time,hopefully not for the rest of their lives.People are saying it only takes a second,you cant watch them 24/7,all of which is true.
However,as parents we do our utmost to prevent things like this happening.Talking for myself i have never left my children alone in a secure building ,i wouldnt even leave them in a car alone.It is at this point i have to rely on the papers as i never been there,but from what i saw from the ariel photo,the parents were a good bit away and not in sight of buiding when they went for a meal . I am grateful my little girl is not so little now,and will be flying away in a year or so.
Without wanting to be cold,calous etc etc can someone tell me why there has been such a massive reward placed for Maddie's save return.Massive press coverage here and abroad,so much is being done to keep her in everyones minds and to stay fresh.
Its not my intention to judge the family and their actions,as parents we are only human,and we all make mistakes,and at the time they thought they made the right call.

My point is:-

What about all the others,who is looking out for them.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Look at it another way... had the parents paid for babysitting while they went out for the evening, would they have ever thought it was acceptable for the person they were paying to have left the chldren in the same circumstances? They probably would have been horrified.

I was watching CNN last night and they were having a discussion about this. A comment was made by one of them in defense of the parents about how there is a cultural difference, that while the american culture would think it was irresponsible, people in britain would find leaving the children in that situation acceptable. From what I have seen on the forum, that surely isn't the case.

[Sweltered]

It's definately not the norm for kids to be left alone these days.

[ionnsaigh]

Goodnight my love, sleep tight -a kiss an cuddle for Mummy and Daddy
see you in the morning- night night - I love you my wee dear Maddie
wine conversation food friends flow check the kids away you go
aye there fine all asleep an safely tucked up- where's my wine is that my cup
hospital talk engulfs the show -time drifts by as danger lurks picks an plucks
oh my god where's wee maddie run run to tell her daddy
Maddie gone- out of bed- search the flat check the pool
hell hell living hell call the police sound the bell search and call her name
Maddie maddie maddie come to Mummy please come to Daddy
no no oh dear god cannae sleep think or eat please give her back how we weep.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Ionns, very good.

[ionnsaigh]

Do you see her cry and wipe away her soft tender tears
in your rush to get away- you left behind her wee pink fluffy toy
as well a flood of salty sobs- grieving aunt and bits an bobs
stop thief you rob our hearts - give us back our daughter dear
back to where she belongs- in our arms to love cherish hold- sing songs
why commit such dreadful act - an innocent child that's a fact
wrap her up clean and warm -leave her safe tomorrow morn
you must be sorry and disturbed -for such a crime to have occurred
forget the police and that lot- leave her now you wont get caught
see she happy and only three- make them happy set her free
we beg you on our bended knees give her back please please please.

[gizmo]

Well Wee C.... I've got to give you credit for that one... First time in a long time someone has wrung a tear from me with poetry.... Wife greeting as well... Of course it will only be a matter of time before you get up my nose again, but credit where it is due....

[general jack o'niell]

just read the story by the mirror reporter that reported that guy to police, if she ever visits this site we will all get banged up, what a load of nonsense, apparently he looked shifty, being a gutter press reporter she'd know shifty all right!!!!!!

not saying she won't be proven right, but either he is innocent or she's just not very good at writing copy, her piece was complete waffle, usual don't let the facts get in the way of a good story and now the family have a diary printed in two mirror group papers, whats that about? is the mirror and record trying this case?

[dunoon]

is the mirror and record trying this case?

You mean like they did with Luke Mitchell?

[general jack o'niell]

exactly!!! funny how they can report things printed in portuguese papers when the local plod are saying nothing about anything, might be a better way to run a case, that way its tried in court not in the press months in advance, if that was in this country he would have been given a good kicking by someone by now, he may well be involved but i would need more evidence than a wee lassie thinking he looked shifty, and why hasn't his ex wife been lifted, she said her daughter looks like maddie too, hope johnny depp doesn't go missing or i'm in trouble, ok keith richards.

[Old Willham]

I see that the McCanns are on their way to see the Pope. As Gods representative on Earth it will be a good opportunity for them to ask the pontif why the Big Man upstairs has chosen to ignore their prayers and the prayers of millions of others around the world. I wonder what wishy-washy bulls%!t his eminence will come away with this time to justify the kidnapping of a 3 year old child. God works in mysterious ways....my arse.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I hope that little girl is fine, too - just still wondering if the parents have had a lie detector test, were there others who felt comfortable enough to leave their children, did anyone else see the lttle girl immediately before they all went out to dinner and what is the consensus of the other dinner guests on all this.

[Beachcomber]

did anyone else see the lttle girl immediately before they all went out to dinner and what is the consensus of the other dinner guests on all this.

There is a witness who says she saw a child being carried away by a man shortly before it was discovered the little girl was missing. She just assumed it was his child at the time.

[general jack o'niell]

and she knows the family and she was on her way to have dinner with them, brings up a couple of quieries, why did she not recognise the child? and if she was only on her way to join them, what does that say for the claims they'd been checking every half hour? was she more than an hour late? were the kids left alone longer than was claimed? ie. did they nip off for drinks before dinner and it was then that she was taken and not while they ate, as this witness was eating with the parents then she presumably arrive in time to start her meal along with everyone else.

oh and why did it take three weeks before what she saw was reported? i hate to use the dreaded "D" word but with all the publicity who would be mad enough to take a child then keep it alive for so long when they know what awaits them if they are caught? if they never intend to harm her she would have been dumped somewhere and found alive by now. plus they now say they are using the net to search for her, not in the way you would imagine considering all the theories as to why she was taken, surely its not going to take pics of her turning up on some sick site before there is a new lead?

should that happen there will be a queue 1000 miles long of people wanting five minutes alone with these bastards, i'd need a lot lot longer to make them really suffer!!