Parksquare/ Parliement Place

[Malky]

That's as may be Dunc, but you should not judge others by your own standards, you also have no right to term anyone else as crap.


petewick

Exactly how do you judge others if not by your own standards? And Dunc has every right to term someone crap if he wants. Doesn't make him right (or wrong) - that's just his opinion and he's entitled to it. Freedom of speech and all that.

@ general jack
You're spot on with your comments there.

Malky

[general jack o'niell]

now i know i'm right!!!! if the admin says it, then it must be true

please feel free to repost that message after everything i post, save the riffraff from getting repetative wrist strain

[The Hitman]

Indeed I also agree with the General!!!

Couldn't have put it better myself!

[Dunc]

You are correct General not all were bad .. in fact Parliament Place was lovely in my schooldays and indeed two of my Aunties are in the front row of the Courier 1958 photo today!!!
I also agree its also hapenning to other area's now .I,ve never seen a removal done with Tesco's trolleys to Millknowe before!!!
My only hope is they get something built and soon on the sites in question and not leave a derelect site for rubbish.I used to travel daily thru Ferguslie Park in Paisley (pal riding shotgun) and it was like a war zone.
The town spruce-up thing is fine,cost a lot of money, but will sink without trace few years from now.I would rather they kept the dosh for some other areas.I did like the idea of widening out the old pier towards the new one 50 or 60 yds or so and use it as a carpark with seats grass bits etc as the fishing boats really dont use it all now.

But there you go just dreaming

Dunc

[Sweltered]

Eh, I've not posted anything on this

[general jack o'niell]

it's called accessory after the fact, or guilt by association, take your pick!!!!

[Dunc]

Aye you beat me to it just edited it sorry..

Dunc

[general jack o'niell]

i knew what you meant dunc, have a wee look at the pic he posted, thats him with a smile, no cheap shot, he's generally a cheery sowl, tho his baseball cap doesn't hide much, i'm the handsome one on his left, not your left, his left.

[bill]

its all learned behaviour, the child see the parents having no respect for others, they grow up the same way.

Got to disagree with you Gen.Jack.
Given a chance in life, many young people will grab it with both hands and pull themselves up out of the lifestyle you describe.I agree not all,but at the same time not all copy their parents.

[SmithD]

This is some of the sights that were in the flats, certainly they are not all as bad as this, but a lot are pretty bad . this gives you an idea of the depreciation and upkeep of the flats over the years! Only tenants are to blame for this. I know not all tenants are like this and have stayed in the buildings for years. But this is a stark reality compaired to what these house were like years ago!!

[gizmo]

Sorry Malky, still dont think you can refer to the residents of Parliament or anywhere else for that matter in that manner... I accept that some were bad but I still remember the majority as perfectly normal, dont remember refusing tea very often (my particular bench mark)... Freedom of speech brings its own responsibilities, one being the need to think before you speak, or are we now allowed to write what we want about anyone?
As for repetative wrist strain, do you suffer from that Gen? ...

[SmithD]

Think you have to remember that a lot of the original residents aren't there anymore, past away or moved on. Going in to your neighbours for cups of tea or whatever is more or less a thing of the past, we aren't in 1958 any more! And a lot of people don't even know their neighbour!

Parliament is one of these places that has changed drastically over the years, by different people, even different types of people moving in!

[jdcarra]

Think you have to remember that a lot of the original residents aren't there anymore, past away or moved on. Going in to your neighbours for cups of tea or whatever is more or less a thing of the past, we aren't in 1958 any more! And a lot of people don't even know their neighbour!

Parliament is one of these places that has changed drastically over the years, by different people, even different types of people moving in!

Ditto.

I'll remember it as a young boy some 40 odd years ago or less . As i mentioned already, my relatives stayed there, friends and classmates. We shall just have to remember the good old days as some have said already .

[petewick]

That's as may be Dunc, but you should not judge others by your own standards, you also have no right to term anyone else as crap.


petewick

Exactly how do you judge others if not by your own standards? And Dunc has every right to term someone crap if he wants. Doesn't make him right (or wrong) - that's just his opinion and he's entitled to it. Freedom of speech and all that.

@ general jack
You're spot on with your comments there.

Malky

Who exactly is anyone to judge someone else.
What a body does in their own home is their own business as long as it's legal and it's not causing anyone of their neighbours any problems.
There was never any "neighbours from hell" in my youth or before, ASBOs were a completely alien prospect, any altercations were sorted out with a quiet friendly word.
As for freedom of speech, I wonder if anyone on here would go to those people whom Dunc was referring to and call them crap face to face. Stand and be counted.
Additionally, Malky, we are entitled to our opinions, but you also have to have adequate justification when you judge others, not just what is based on your own agenda.
Look at the bigger picture, just because someone has a fireplace in a different place from you does not make them crap, maybe thats all they have ever known.
petewick

[petewick]

This is some of the sights that were in the flats, certainly they are not all as bad as this, but a lot are pretty bad . this gives you an idea of the depreciation and upkeep of the flats over the years! Only tenants are to blame for this. I know not all tenants are like this and have stayed in the buildings for years. But this is a stark reality compaired to what these house were like years ago!!

It's inside their front doors, theres nothing illegal going on there, I agree it's a mess but that's what our housing providers are there for, to ensure that situations like those shown in the pictures don't areise.


petewick