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Postby WLB123 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:59 pm

GREAT my plot to Amercanize Scotland is working!!!!!

I personnally introduced over 100 kids to Halloween and trick or treat while living there, and I made them stare at the pretty blinking Christmas lights until so Mesmerized they even ate the PEANUT BUTTER I fed them.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA resistance is futile.......Starbucks and McDonalds on every corner and clogged arteries from them on you all!!!!

BUT WAIT, my son, my very own AMERICAN son continued to play Futbol / Soccer or as we refer to it, metric football, for the rest of his life along with American sports of worth, and I am totally addicted to GOLF and darts......................arg they got me back.

Geeeze louies guys, lighten up. Anytime humans interact they pick up all sorts of things from each other. Mostly good, but they have injections to cure most of the rest. 8)

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Postby Sweltered » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:11 pm

Did you not read my first post on this thread....Trick or Treat CAME FROM SCOTLAND TO AMERICA!!!!
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Postby WLB123 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:13 pm

Sweltered wrote:Did you not read my first post on this thread....Trick or Treat CAME FROM SCOTLAND TO AMERICA!!!!


Oh well, I brought home then. :D
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Postby Friend of Dorothy » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:12 pm

Sweltered wrote:Did you not read my first post on this thread....Trick or Treat CAME FROM SCOTLAND TO AMERICA!!!!

I think you will find that the festival of 'all hallows eve' may have found it's way across 'the pond' but the term 'trick or treat' is in fact an americanisation. I don't believe that in your youth, you went around the doors of Campbeltown crying out 'trick or treat'???? :?
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Postby Sweltered » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:18 pm

The phrase may be American, but the concept of "tricking" of no treat is given comes from this side of the pond.

And FOD, I certainly remember hearing it when I was young
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Postby Friend of Dorothy » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:30 pm

ionnsaigh wrote:AA. Milne was English, absolutely nothing wrong with that, equally it is fair to say the Hugh Macdiarmid is Scottish.
You attempt to lump them together by slapping on the term British. This serves neither well.
Britain is a corruption, the dominant English culture has swamped our own culture- to such an extent that we are in dire danger of becoming little more than- a mere tartan clad whiskey drinking joke- that fell off a shortbread tin.
So I become a blind racist -when attempting to assert my own Celtic heritage and culture. Steve Biko was tarred with the same brush when attempting to raise Black South African consciousness.

The term, "a senseless rant" -perhaps points to your own emotional responses- when it comes to dealing with constructive criticism :roll:
I use British Telecom, I have a Brit Passport, a brit driving licence a brit TV licence, National Insurance Number,
health number, army -navy- air force- all brit. Where is me in that lot?. Drowning in the wave of Britishness- that's were.
As for blaming ourselves for the impact of American culture -yes your right enough there- Friend Of Dorothy.
AOL isn't -Argyll On Line - or is it?.

I dont have a problem with my identity, Scottish, British or otherwise. I am not blinkered in my view of the world. I shall not be told by anyone what I should believe, feel, think, read, listen to etc etc. I doubt that you can say that without BLAMING someone else. The truth is out there, it's called real life. Please, for all our sakes, go in search. May I also point out that you were not criticising my post. One must understand the subject/content to give any sort of constructive criticism and you clearly were way off the mark, and as usual, wwwwaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy off the thread :x
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Postby ionnsaigh » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:58 pm

I most certainly have a problem with my National identity. at least in terms of the negative impact, the adoption the fostering, and feeding of those claiming British culture as being superior. As opposed to one our own - and picked by one of our own choosing.

I like you comrade, will never bow the knee. What you think feel- act- are indeed - freedoms that I for one, would fight.
How can you blame for what is after al- a natural phenomenon . In many ways- we are trapped within our own evolutionary stage in development.
It is a clever enough ploy, too puff up like a cat when danger lurks, by including everyone else in your own criticism . Give others the democratic right of freedom of speech- in other words practice what you preach.
Don't suffer the indignity- of your cries falling on deaf ears.
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Postby Friend of Dorothy » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:07 pm

My cries obviously fall on deaf ears when you are the recipient. Every post/thread on this site is hijacked by you to make a political statement. Try sticking to the thread, for once. I know it is hard when you feel so passionately about................what was it again?????? :roll:
Hugh being Scottish is great, but he did not write Winnie The Pooh. :?
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Postby Friend of Dorothy » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:12 pm

Sweltered wrote:The phrase may be American, but the concept of "tricking" of no treat is given comes from this side of the pond.

And FOD, I certainly remember hearing it when I was young

It was indeed the phrase I made my original comment about. I too heard the phrase when I was young but only on American TV shows. As I remember, we went to someones door and had to offer up a poem, song, joke etc, to recieve our nuts and apples.
A favourite, and easier option was to say 'the sky is blue, the grass is green, now may we have our halloween'. All very polite, no trick or treat....!
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Postby Friend of Dorothy » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:14 pm

WLB123 wrote:GREAT my plot to Amercanize Scotland is working!!!!!

I personnally introduced over 100 kids to Halloween and trick or treat while living there, and I made them stare at the pretty blinking Christmas lights until so Mesmerized they even ate the PEANUT BUTTER I fed them.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA resistance is futile.......Starbucks and McDonalds on every corner and clogged arteries from them on you all!!!!

BUT WAIT, my son, my very own AMERICAN son continued to play Futbol / Soccer or as we refer to it, metric football, for the rest of his life along with American sports of worth, and I am totally addicted to GOLF and darts......................arg they got me back.

Geeeze louies guys, lighten up. Anytime humans interact they pick up all sorts of things from each other. Mostly good, but they have injections to cure most of the rest. 8)

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Good point WLB123 :lol:
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Postby general jack o'niell » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:39 pm

we never shouted trick or treat, more like run, here come D**** R**, he'll try and stael ah oor apples and sweets, mind you he was one that certainly never needed a false face
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:07 pm

Too bad halloween has fallen by the wayside over the last few years. Fear set in in the late 80s and you hardly see kids trick-or-treating anymore. Sad commentary on the state of the world. The fact that according to Snopes, there were no cases of poisoning, 80 needles documented in the whole of the US since 1959, (the resulting 10 injuries were minor) and virtually every report of razorblades was a hoax report, usually by the child or the parent. So fear again paralyzed and took away a very fun tradition of childhood. You used to see the streets filled with children.. er.. scuse me.. princesses and ghouls and pirates and scary monsters laughing, dancing along, carefree...

Wouldn't have been the worse thing to give the world.
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Postby Sweltered » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:48 pm

Friend of Dorothy wrote:
Sweltered wrote:The phrase may be American, but the concept of "tricking" of no treat is given comes from this side of the pond.

And FOD, I certainly remember hearing it when I was young

It was indeed the phrase I made my original comment about. I too heard the phrase when I was young but only on American TV shows. As I remember, we went to someones door and had to offer up a poem, song, joke etc, to recieve our nuts and apples.
A favourite, and easier option was to say 'the sky is blue, the grass is green, now may we have our halloween'. All very polite, no trick or treat....!


Must have been after you flitted, it was heard in Davaar/Calton
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:55 pm

What difference does it make which phrase is used.. parroting one phrase or the other..

There actually was a poem here: Trick or treat, smell my feet, give me something good to eat.. :oops:

Now you see that "trick or treat" was probably preferable :lol:

(By the way, my mother would have definitely disapproved if we used that poem)
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Postby ionnsaigh » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:58 am

F.O.D, ( cheeky charlie)
Delusional
Senseless rant
Blind racist
Are three of the terms you used in your first reply to my first post. Who burst your boil. hardly a balanced approach.
As far as making a political point in every post, your as equally guilty. ( Friend Of Dorothy).
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